Details On Dylan Cease Trade Talks Between White Sox, Reds
There hasn’t been much on the Dylan Cease front since early December, when reports suggested that the White Sox were going to wait until the free agent pitching market had become a bit clearer before again weighing offers for the right-hander. The Reds were known to be one of the clubs interested in Cease, though 670 The Score’s Bruce Levine reported that the Sox had asked for a four-player trade package — pitching prospects Rhett Lowder and Chase Petty, as well as two position-player prospects.
Jason Williams of the Cincinnati Enquirer sheds some more light on Chicago’s demands, writing that the White Sox wanted Lowder, Edwin Arroyo, Connor Phillips, “and at least one more prospect.” This could mean that the Sox wanted a five-player return, with Petty and an unknown position player comprising the other two names involved. MLB Pipeline ranks Lowder, Arroyo, and Phillips within the top 68 prospects in all of baseball, while Lowder (45th) and Phillips (86th) also ranked within Baseball America’s last top 100 ranking from September.
New White Sox GM Chris Getz has been open about the fact that he is willing to discuss any player on his team’s roster in trade negotiations, though some obviously come at a much higher price tag than others. Luis Robert Jr. may be the only player close to truly untouchable, and Cease might not be far off, though the two have differing levels of team control. Robert’s contract contains two club options that control his services through the 2027 season, while Cease has only two more years of arbitration eligibility remaining before he can hit free agency in the 2025-26 offseason.
Still, two years of a frontline pitcher like Cease is still quite an asset — either for a White Sox team trying to get on track after a disastrous season, or as a trade chip the Sox can use to reload the roster for both now and the future. The Reds are a natural trade partner on paper, given how Cincinnati is in sore need of pitching help and is also deep in position-player prospects. Cincinnati was known to have interest in Chicago’s pitching even prior to the All-Star break, so it is safe to assume Cease has been on the Reds’ radar for a while, at least in some fashion.
Because the White Sox are known to be targeting pitching, however, the Sox and Reds might not quite line up as smoothly on a Cease trade as it might seem. Obviously any team would be hesitant about moving three of its top-rated pitching prospects, and in particular, the Reds would be wary about cleaning out their pitching assets when they have so much of an surplus in another area (the infield) in their farm system. Speculatively speaking, the Reds might be more willing to consider a package of Arroyo, another position player, and one pitcher for Cease, yet it isn’t surprising why Cincinnati would balk at moving at least two of Phillips, Lowder, and Petty on top of what is already a substantial return of infield talent.
There isn’t really any harm in aiming high, of course, as Getz has plenty of offseason left to continue to explore other potential trade packages involving Cease. The fact that the Dodgers have already nabbed two of the top free agent (Yoshinobu Yamamoto) and trade (Tyler Glasnow) targets on the market has left a lot of other teams still in sore need of rotation help, so it certainly seems possible that Cease might be wearing another uniform by Opening Day.
It is also too early to rule the Reds out of any further Cease talks, even if that rumored four-for-one or five-for-one seems like a bridge too far. Cincinnati has been aggressive in adding to its rotation and bullpen by signing Nick Martinez and Emilio Pagan, and bolstered its infield picture even further by signing Jeimer Candelario. The addition of Candelario seemingly makes it more likely that the Reds could move an infielder in some manner of trade, whether for Cease or another pitcher.
Padres Claim Luis Patiño
The Padres announced Friday that they’ve claimed right-hander Luis Patiño off waivers from the White Sox, who’d designated him for assignment earlier in the week. It’s a homecoming for Patiño, a former top prospect who was originally signed and developed by the Padres. Their 40-man roster is now up to 33 players.
Now 24 years old, Patiño was traded from San Diego to Tampa Bay alongside catcher Francisco Mejia, minor league catcher Blake Hunt and minor league righty Cole Wilcox in the 2020 trade that brought eventual two-time Cy Young winner Blake Snell to the Padres. At the time of the swap, Patiño was regarded as one of the sport’s very best pitching prospects; he’d scuffled through 17 1/3 innings in his initial call to the Majors the prior season (5.19 ERA, 21-to-14 K/BB ratio), but that debut came at just 20 years of age. Entering the 2020 campaign, each of Baseball America, MLB.com, Baseball Prospectus, FanGraphs, ESPN and The Athletic had ranked among the top 30 prospects in all of MLB.
As is made clear by the manner in which he’s returning to the Friars, things haven’t panned out for Patiño. The right-hander posted strong numbers in 29 1/3 Triple-A frames in 2021 and also spent the majority of that season on the big league roster in Tampa Bay. It wasn’t a great season by any means, but Patiño did post a 4.31 ERA with a 22.2% strikeout rate and 8.7% walk rate while averaging 96 mph on his heater. For a 21-year-old in his first full MLB campaign — and one who’d barely pitched above A-ball thanks to the canceled 2020 minor league season — it was a reasonably encouraging first foot forward.
From there, however, things went downhill quickly. Patiño suffered a severe oblique strain early in the 2022 campaign, prompting a 60-day IL placement and an absence of more than three months. Upon returning, he showed diminished velocity and far shakier results. Patiño walked more batters than he struck out in 20 MLB frames that year and was limited to 34 Triple-A innings, where he struggled with home runs and was tagged for a 4.50 earned run average.
In 2023, Patiño developed alarming command troubles, walking more nearly 18% of the opponents he faced in Triple-A between the Rays and the White Sox, who acquired him for cash considerations on the day of the trade deadline. In 21 1/3 innings at the MLB level, Patiño posted a 4.57 ERA with an 18.2% strikeout rate and 14.1% walk rate.
He’ll now head back to a Padres club that’s in need of pitching depth after seeing starters Snell, Seth Lugo, Michael Wacha and Rich Hill reach free agency in addition to relievers Josh Hader, Luis Garcia and Drew Pomeranz. Clearly, Patiño can’t be counted on like the Padres might have expected in 2021, had he not been traded, but he gives them a still-young arm to plug into the rotation mix or bullpen this spring. Patiño is out of minor league options, it should be noted, meaning he’ll have to either make the Opening Day roster or else be traded or placed on waivers once again.
White Sox Designate Luis Patiño For Assignment
The White Sox announced they have selected the contract of right-hander Josimar Cousin, with fellow righty Luis Patiño designated for assignment in a corresponding move.
Patiño, now 24, was once a top 100 prospect but hasn’t yet delivered on that hype as a major leaguer. He came up with the Padres and then went to the Rays in the December 2020 Blake Snell deal. But he struggled to establish himself in Tampa and was flipped to the White Sox just ahead of this year’s deadline.
Between those three clubs, he has 136 1/3 major league innings of experience to this point with a 5.02 earned run average. His 20.2% strikeout rate and 11.4% walk rate are both below typical league averages. He also has struggled at the Triple-A level, with a 5.12 ERA in 123 innings there in his career.
The righty exhausted his final option year in 2023, meaning he could no longer be sent to the minors without being exposed to waivers. With that diminished roster flexibility, it was going to be a challenge for him to hang onto a roster spot, given his poor results of late. The Sox will now have a week to try to work out a trade or pass him through waivers.
Cousin, 26 in February, was born in Cuba and signed a minor league deal with the Sox in May. He spent time at three different minor league levels this year, going from the Complex League to High-A and then Double-A. He posted a combined 5.56 ERA in 55 innings, striking out 19.6% of opponents and walking 6.3%. It’s unclear why he was added to the roster today but it’s possible there was some sort of opt-out in his deal or he was offered an opportunity overseas.
Mets Acquire Yohan Ramirez
The Mets announced Monday that they’ve acquired right-hander Yohan Ramirez from the White Sox in exchange for cash. Ramirez was designated for assignment by the ChiSox last week.
Ramirez appeared in just five games for the White Sox, who acquired him from the Pirates via an early-September waiver claim. He yielded four runs in four innings with the South Siders but had pitched to a solid 3.67 ERA with a 20% strikeout rate and 9% walk rate in 34 1/3 innings.
Now 28 years old, Ramirez made his big league debut with the Mariners in 2020 and has appeared in every MLB season since. He’s totaled 124 innings of 3.99 ERA ball as a big leaguer, striking out 23.2% of his opponents against a 12.5% walk rate that’s well north of the league average. Ramirez was a fly-ball pitcher early in his career but switched from a four-seamer to a two-seamer in 2022 and has since been a pronounced ground-ball arm (54.1%).
Scouting reports on Ramirez from his prospect days praised his stuff across the board but noted that he lacked command. That’s played out through much of his big league tenure to date, but the pieces for a quality reliever are clearly present. He’s out of minor league options, so the Mets will have to either carry Ramirez on the Opening Day roster or else trade him, release him or attempt to pass him through outright waivers prior to the end of spring training.
Chicago Notes: Lee, Candelario, Pepiot
After losing Jeimer Candelario, Cody Bellinger, and Marcus Stroman to free agency last month, the Cubs figure to look for additional help at the corner infield spots and in the rotation while also continuing a search for a left-handed bat that saw them connected to both Juan Soto and Shohei Ohtani before the superstars landed with the Yankees and Dodgers, respectively. According to Patrick Mooney of The Athletic, that search for a left-handed bat took them to a somewhat unusual place, as Mooney indicates that Chicago pursued star KBO outfielder Jung Hoo Lee prior to him landing in San Francisco on a six-year, $113MM deal last week.
It’s something of a peculiar fit, as the Cubs have Ian Happ and Seiya Suzuki locked into the corner outfield spots with top prospect Pete Crow-Armstrong and his 80-grade glove in center field expected to break into the majors as a regular sometime next season. While that hasn’t stopped president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer and his front office from pursuing Soto and a reunion with Bellinger, it’s worth noting that Bellinger has plenty of experience at first base and that Soto is a fringe defender in the outfield who may be best suited for a DH role. Lee, by contrast, has spent his entire professional career in the outfield and is viewed as a plus defender on the grass with a chance to stick in center.
Despite the uncertain fit, Mooney suggests that the 25-year-old’s youth, left-handed bat, and ability to play center were all attractive factors in the eyes of the Cubs. Speculatively speaking, the club may have seen Lee as a piece who could slot into center field on Opening Day to allow Crow-Armstrong more time to develop in the minors. Upon Crow-Armstrong’s promotion, the club could have utilized the DH slot, where they have no regular starting option, to rest Suzuki, Happ, and Lee by divvying up time in the outfield corners between the three of them while also allowing them to all play on an everyday basis.
More rumblings out of Chicago…
- Sticking with the Cubs, Mooney suggests that the club “didn’t express interest” in retaining Candelario after he hit the open market last month. Candelario came up as a member of the Cubs but was shipped to the Tigers at the 2017 trade deadline alongside infielder Isaac Paredes in exchange for catcher Alex Avila and left-hander Justin Wilson. Candelario made his way back to Chicago this past summer when the Cubs landed him in exchange for infield prospect Kevin Made and lefty relief prospect D.J. Herz. Candelario’s second stint with the Cubs was shortened by a two-week stint on the injured list in September due to a back issue. Though Candelario was a strong fit for the Cubs’ offseason needs as a switch-hitting infielder who can contribute at both infield corners as well as DH, it’s possible the club was turned off from pursuing him by the relatively modest .234/.318/.445 slash line he put up in 157 trips to the plate with Chicago this season. Candelario wound up signing with the Reds on a three-year, $45MM deal earlier this month.
- Looking toward the south side, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports that the White Sox were interested in right-hander Ryan Pepiot as part of a possible return package while discussing a Dylan Cease trade with the Dodgers earlier this winter. Pepiot ultimately was shipped to the Rays alongside outfielder Jonny DeLuca in exchange for oft-injured ace Tyler Glasnow and outfielder Manuel Margot. It’s unclear if the Dodgers and White Sox are still engaged in discussions regarding Cease following the Glasnow deal, though the Dodgers are certainly in need of multiple starting pitchers this offseason and would surely benefit from the addition of Cease, who sports a 3.54 ERA and 3.40 FIP over the past three seasons, to their rotation mix.
White Sox Sign Chuckie Robinson To Minors Contract
The White Sox signed catcher Chuckie Robinson to a minors contract last week, as per Robinson’s MLB.com profile page. Robinson (who just celebrated his 29th birthday two days ago) has been assigned to Triple-A Charlotte.
A 21st-round pick for the Astros in the 2016 draft, Robinson was selected by the Reds in the 2020 minor league Rule 5 draft, which eventually resulted in Robinson making his Major League debut in a Cincinnati uniform. The backstop posted a .407 OPS over 60 plate appearances in 25 games with the Reds in 2022, though he didn’t see any action beyond the Triple-A level last year. Even after hitting a very solid .290/.356/.450 over 413 PA with Triple-A Louisville, Robinson couldn’t crack a pretty crowded Reds depth chart that saw Tyler Stephenson, Luke Maile, and Curt Casali all getting turns behind the plate.
Robinson will now move onto a new opportunity with the White Sox, even if Chicago’s acquisition of Max Stassi has helped shore up the catching situation. Stassi and Korey Lee are penciled in as Chicago’s regular catching duo, though Robinson figures to be the top depth option at Triple-A given the lack of big league catching experience in the White Sox farm system. However, Robinson might also face a playing-time squeeze from Edgar Quero, as the 20-year-old catcher is one of Chicago’s top prospects and is expected to make his Triple-A debut in 2024.
White Sox Designate Yohan Ramirez For Assignment
The White Sox have officially announced their deal with right-hander Erick Fedde, with fellow righty Yohan Ramirez designated for assignment in a corresponding move.
Ramirez, 29 in May, was just claimed off waivers from the Pirates in September. He has 124 innings of major league experience to this point, having thrown for the Mariners, Guardians, Pirates and White Sox. He has an earned run average of 3.99 in that time, having struck out 23.2% of opponents and kept 44.9% of balls in play on the ground but also walking opponents at a 12.5% clip.
The righty burned his final option season in 2023 and will therefore be out of options going forward. That gives him a bit less appeal, since he can no longer be sent to Triple-A without first being exposed to waivers, therefore making it harder to utilize him as a depth piece.
The Sox have removed him from the roster now and will have a week to work out a trade or pass him through waivers. Ramirez is currently a bit shy of three years of MLB service time and doesn’t have a previous career outright. That means he wouldn’t be able to elect free agency if he were to make it through waivers unclaimed.
White Sox Acquire Max Stassi From Braves
December 11: Atlanta is paying Stassi’s deal down to the league minimum, according to the Associated Press; they’ll send $6.26MM in cash. That amount also counts against the Braves luxury tax number, which sits at an estimated $263MM according to Roster Resource. As second-time payors in the second tier of penalization, they’ll pay a 42% tax on that money. Stassi will cost the Braves around $8.89MM overall.
December 9: The White Sox have acquired Max Stassi and cash considerations from the Braves in exchange for a player to be named later. Both teams have announced the deal. Per Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun Times, the Braves are expected to pay for the majority of Stassi’s $7MM salary next season.
Stassi, 33 in March, spent just one day in the Braves organization after being acquired from the Angels yesterday in a multi-played deal with the Angels alongside infielder David Fletcher. Now, the veteran catcher is off to his third organization in two days, where he figures to have the opportunity to step into a regular role on the south side of Chicago. The White Sox lost Yasmani Grandal to free agency earlier this offseason and were in need of a veteran backstop to pair with youngster Korey Lee behind the plate in 2024.
It’s a need Stassi is more than capable of fulfilling. While the veteran missed the entire 2023 season, only the first half of his absence was due to the left hip strain that prevented him from being on the Opening Day roster in Anaheim last season. Stassi recovered from that issue midseason, but he and his wife revealed last month that the three-months premature birth of their son necessitated Stassi to step away from the game and attend to his family for the remainder of the 2023 campaign.
That said, Stassi is expected to return to the field in 2024 and has shown himself to be a quality big league catcher over the past few seasons. Initially drafted by the A’s in the fourth round of the 2009 draft, Stassi made his big league debut back in 2013 with the Astros but did not find a regular role in the majors until the 2018 season when he split time behind the plate in Houston with Brian McCann and Martin Maldonado. Stassi did well for himself in a backup role that season, slashing a respectable .226/.316/.394 in 250 plate appearances. While Stassi struggled through 51 games in 2019, prompting the Astros to trade him to the Angels at that year’s trade deadline, Stassi was given a more prominent role upon his arrival in Anaheim.
In 118 games between the shortened 2020 campaign and his first full season as an Angel in 2021, Stassi combined above-average offense at the plate (113 wRC+) with strong defense behind it to be the ninth most valuable catcher in the league according to fWAR. That strong performance led the Angels to sign Stassi to an extension, though that decision would prove ill-fated. As effective as Stassi was during those two seasons, he took a step back in 2022, slashing a meager .180/.267/.363 (63 wRC+) at the plate while posting framing numbers that were closer to average than the elite figures he had posted earlier in his career.
While the struggles Stassi faced in 2022 and his time away from the game in 2023 make it an understandable decision for the Angels and Braves to go in another direction behind the plate in 2024, it’s easy to see why the addition of Stassi would be intriguing for the White Sox. After all, Lee has less than 100 plate appearances of experience in the big leagues and, even if the club believes the former top-100 prospect to be their catcher of the future, will surely need time and assistant as he looks to transition into a new role as a full-time big leaguer. The addition of a veteran catcher such as Stassi should help with that transition, while also creating a substantial bit of upside for Chicago. Stassi’s contract includes a $7MM 2025 club option that features a $500K buyout; if the veteran is able to regain the form he flashed in 2020 and 2021, that $6.5MM decision would be a no-brainer to pick up and make for an attractive trade chip as the White Sox retool their roster with an eye toward the future.
For the Braves, the deal clears a portion of Stassi’s salary from their books while clearing an unnecessary piece from their roster. Atlanta already had one of the best catching tandems in the game with Sean Murphy and Travis d’Arnaud behind the plate, rendering Stassi as largely superfluous. In conjunction with the trade that brought Stassi and Fletcher to Atlanta in exchange for Evan White and the deal that shipped Marco Gonzales to the Pirates, the Braves have shaved roughly $5MM off their payroll since acquiring Gonzales and White as part of the Jarred Kelenic trade during the Winter Meetings while adding a bench piece in Fletcher who better fits the club’s roster than any of Gonzales, White, or Stassi.
White Sox Outright Edgar Navarro
The White Sox have outrighted right-hander Edgar Navarro, with Scott Merkin of MLB.com among those to relay the news. The 40-man roster is now at 39 though their deal with righty Erick Fedde has yet to be made official.
Navarro, 26 in February, just got his roster spot a few months ago, getting selected in July. He has thrown 8 2/3 innings in the majors thus far with a 7.27 earned run average in that small sample.
The righty was something of a late bloomer, signing as an international amateur out of Venezuela at the age of 20, whereas most amateurs out of Latin American sign at age 16. Since then, he has been pitching in the minors, getting plenty of ground balls but also dealing with control issues. He has kept at least 45.5% of balls in play on the ground in every stop of his career but has also walked 13% of minor leaguers he’s faced overall.
Since he was outrighted, that means he passed through waivers unclaimed. He will stick with the White Sox as a bit of non-roster depth and try to earn his way back to the majors in 2024.
White Sox Sign Jake Cousins To Minor League Deal
The White Sox have signed right-hander Jake Cousins to a minor league deal, according to his transactions tracker at MLB.com. He will presumably receive an invitation to major league Spring Training.
Cousins, 29, has 51 games of major league experience, all of those coming with the Brewers over the past three years. His results were quite good in the first two of those years but the most recent campaign was a struggle. Over 2021 and 2022, he tossed 43 1/3 innings with a 2.70 earned run average. His 35.3% strikeout rate was quite strong, though it also came with a concerning 14.7% walk rate.
In 2023, he pitched 9 1/3 innings for Milwaukee, striking out seven batters but issuing 10 walks. He was placed on the injured list in June due to shoulder inflammation and was optioned to Triple-A once activated. The Brewers put him on waivers in July, with the Astros making a claim, though that club kept him on optional assignment and later passed him through waivers. Between the two organizations, he had a combined ERA of 6.35 in Triple-A for the year.
It was obviously not his best showing, but the White Sox were likely intrigued by his previous work. He’s always racked up big strikeout numbers in the minors, though the control has been an issue there as well. If he’s able to harness his stuff and get onto the roster, he still has an option, meaning the club could send him back to the minors without exposing him to waivers. He also has less than two years of service time, which could allow the club to retain him beyond 2024 if things go especially well.
The Sox have been focused on improving their pitching depth in recent weeks. The Aaron Bummer trade brought three arms to Chicago and the club subsequently signed Erick Fedde and then grabbed Shane Drohan in the Rule 5 draft. Cousins will give them a bit more depth in a non-roster capacity while trying to earn his way back to the big leagues.