White Sox May Shop Jon Garland

Broxton has 33 strikeouts and only 3 walks post-asb, I seriously doubt the Dodgers move him. If the Dodgers are that desperate for a mediocre 4th starter they can just exercise Randy Wolf's 2008 option.

I think the Mariners would matchup well ... they could send OF Wladimir Balentien, 2B Yung Chi Chen and possibly a LH Middle Reliever (George Sherrill?) without disrupting their core or any future plans. This would allow them to avoid the Jeff Weaver adventure next year. I'd like to see what Garland could do in that ballpark with that defense behind him.

Williams wanted Hunter Pence! Besides, were Garland to be a free agent this year, he'd be the best SP on the market (with the exception of Andy Pettitte, who isn't a typical free agent anyway since there's probably only 3-4 teams that he would realistically suit up for) ... The Mariners gave up Rafael Soriano for Haracio Ramirez last year. I'd say that demonstrates a willingness to overpay for starting pitching.

idk what they're asking for but i doubt it would be better than taveras, buchholz, and hirsh. idk if i would have done pence for hirsh this time last year, let alone the four of them...the market for pitching gets more depressing by the day

dontrelle willis is better than jon garland, teams should go after the younger and better pitcher Willis. i could see something maybe like matt kemp or andre either plus some pitching prospect for willis

Akinori Otsuka thrived in SD in 2004, regressed in 2005 and thrived when he was traded to the Rangers in 2006.

This same scenario could play out for Cla Meredith who has regressed after his breakout 2006.

How about Cla Meredith & Nick Hundley?

Another interesting scenario would be for the A's to send Huston Street & Mark Kotsay. It's an even swap of salary for the cost-conscious A's and Kotsay could fill Erstad's role for the White Sox.

Jesus Christ people, you think starting pitchers come cheap? You can't get a guy who has averaged 216 IP the previous 3 years in the American League, for an average reliever (since people have written off Lidge, Qualls, and Broxton....above average but not elite relievers).

GOOD middle relievers make about 4 million per year on the open market. The worst pitcher in the league last year got 7 mil per year. Discuss....

Barroid Bonds

Are you kidding me! The Dodgers would be fools to trade Kemp for Willis! Willis sucks! Willis is a descent #3, and Good #4! Maybe the Dodgers give up Andre Eithier(or however you spell it) like you said, without Anybody else involved! Straight up trade! Willis is the MOST overated pitcher in baseball! What has he done since 2005? Please answer me that! This is TWO years of Mediocrity! Plain and Simple! Willis is Worth a Solid Outfielder, but the dude is a free agent in 08 OR 09! Then teams will overpay for the bumb! I just dont get the lovefest for the dude! Yes he is young and a Lefty, but thats about it!

Garland's never gonna be a number 1 or 2, but he's a hell of a lot better than most of the free agent options this year. I think he'll be more than decent on a National League team. I still think the Sox will offer him up to the Orioles for Tejada, but it'll definitely take more than just Garland.

When did the Red Sox express interest in John Garland? For what to throw BP?

Jon Garland led the AL in hits allowed last year. His ERA has been over 4.5, in 5 of the last 6 years. Like many White Sox players, he had a career year in 2005. That said, some knucklehead GM will over pay for him.

Carlos Gomez and Mike Carp for Jon Garland.

Bravesfanuc, you will never see Omar Minaya involved when it comes to these scrubby guys like Jon Garland. If he wants a guy like Garland, he will find him in the offseason for crumbs, like he did with Maine, Lawrence, Perez, El Duque, Sosa, you name it. You dont have to pay 12 million dollars plus give up your best youngsters for overated number 4/5 guys like Jon Garland. They are all over you just have to know where to find them. Omar has built the pen with bigger sort of free agent signings, retaining Glavine and brining in Pedro, and then with small time trades like the El Duque, Maine, and Perez deals. Not by overpaying for a scrubby guy that is being shopped around like he is Don Sutton. Teetz, I dont know about you, but Jon Broxton is an elite reliever in my book, and only getting better.

The posters that call Garland over-rated are idiots.

Garland is a young,durable, experienced winning pitcher that dominated in the playoffs and World Series. He has won 18 games twice. He might even get better as his 6'6" frame gets stronger.

The fact that Houston offered that enormous package and Atlanta offered Renteria AND a top pitching prospect is proof of how other GM's view Garland. Few teams are not interested in Garland.

KW turned those 2 deals down. Time will tell if he was wrong. Personally, I wish that he had taken the Houston offer.

I doubt very much that he'll take or won't be offered more than a couple of relievers.

I would rather see the Sox extend Garland than trade him but if they do move him I suspect that they'll get a pitcher and a position player to fill 2 holes.

Shut up Blu.

Jon Garland.
Year W-L ERA WHIP K/BB
2001- 6-7 3.69 1.52 61/55
2002-12-12 4.58 1.41 112/83
03- 12-13 4.51 1.37 108/74
04- 12-11 4.89 1.38 113/76
*05- 18-10 3.50 1.17 115/47
06- 18-7 4.51 1.36 112/41
07- 9-10 4.75 1.40 82/51

You know what Blu, your absolutely right, Garland is the best pitcher in the history of baseball. And he is only 28. Somebody offerup the farm for this guy. Come on, are you serious man? His whip is awful every year during that span, his K/BB were terrible for the most part, his ERA was consistently bad besides in 05. That was a career year and it is not happening again. Garland is just simply not very good, sorry.

Braves would be silly to trade Renteria for Garland. Raise your payroll, lose a good offensive shortstop and add a league average pitcher. How does that make sense?

Renteria is hitting .336 w/ 11HR's this year. Last year he hit close to .300 w/14 HR's. The guy plays solid defense. Folks in the NL are just spoiled in the SS position w/ Ramirez/Rollins/Reyes, etc.

Garland is a fine back of the rotation guy. Just don't give up your shortstop to get him.

bjsguess,

Yeah, you're very right and that's why KW is so stupid when he didn't do the deal ~ it was there for his taking because ATL was in "win now" mode.

At the time Garland saw his ERA somewhere between 2.8-3.1 and was looking like he was something special mainly because he had played such weak teams to that point. Nearly instantly he had to face teams like Bos and Cle and watched his ERA grow to what everyone would expect it to be. That deal was turned down right before the trade for Tex. KW would have looked great getting an AS SS with a 6aYR deal (huge need w/fairly cheap contract) + a TopSP-Pros for a pitcher about to implode; but he was still implying he could be adding pieces!

Now, well I can't imagine the return would be that great. Teams will trade for LgAvg SPs, but when they are making more than they should be and only have a year on the contract then you really have to find one of those GMs about to be fired if you want a good return ~ ie like Houston last offseason... Otherwise you need to find a team looking to dump some salary at the same time as needing a 3-4 type in a major way.

Garland for ERent right now? Nah, that ship has sailed... KW *might* be able to get Escobar, but I even doubt that now...

I could see a Furcal for Garland swap [though with Furcal still owed $17 mill still fro 2008, the sox might seek an arm like Jonathan Meloan]. With both players potential free agents after 2008, the sox and Dodgers would try and re-sign the guys they got in trade. Signing Furcal to a 3, 4 yr deal would be smart for the sox, to team with rookie 2b Danny Richar, [and fellow Dominican]. While signing Garland to a 4 yr deal makes sense for LA, as they could have some stability in their rotation.

Garland is a good bet to stay in LA, as he grew up in CA. Furcal and Ozzie Guillen know each other from Atlanta.