Blue Jays May Keep Downs; Asking Price Still High

6:51pm: The Blue Jays aren't lowering the asking price for any of their relievers, according to ESPN.com's Buster Olney (via Twitter). Toronto's front office has told teams around the league that they'll keep their relievers, offer arbitration and receive draft picks if they don't see offers they like, according to USA Today's Bob Nightengale (via Twitter).

3:12pm: Rival teams believe the Blue Jays may end up keeping Scott Downs, according to ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark. Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos continues to drive a hard bargain, so the Blue Jays may keep the lefty and offer him arbitration after the season. 

At least one team might meet Toronto’s demands. The Twins, who traded top catching prospect Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps, haven’t stopped pursuing Downs, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter). However, the Twins are “not likely” to acquire Downs as it stands now. The Red Sox are not at the forefront of the Downs discussions, according to Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com (Twitter link).

Downs may be pitching in Toronto after the deadline passes, but the Blue Jays are likely to lower their asking price for relievers Kevin Gregg and Jason Frasor.


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61 Comments on "Blue Jays May Keep Downs; Asking Price Still High"


gigantes2425
5 years 29 days ago

every post on mlbtr just sounds worse and worse for the giants.

55saveslives
5 years 29 days ago

I don’t know why the O’s won’t trade Ohman…might as well get a prospect or two.

55saveslives
5 years 29 days ago

I don’t know why the O’s won’t trade Ohman…might as well get a prospect or two.

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

I don’t wamt Downs.

ju1ced
5 years 29 days ago

Damn, you shoulda told Ben before he posted. Now he has to edit it and say the Twins are out of the running.

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

I know, shame on me.

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

I know, shame on me.

ju1ced
5 years 29 days ago

Damn, you shoulda told Ben before he posted. Now he has to edit it and say the Twins are out of the running.

Dave_Gershman
5 years 29 days ago

The Jays should ask the Cardinals for Albert Pujols in exchange for Scott Downs. But seriously, If the Jays really want Casey Kelly or Jesus Montero for Downs, they might as well just keep him and get the draft picks if they even do. The way I look at it, the Jays would ask the Twins for the equivalent of Montero or Kelly. That would be Aaron Hicks or Kyle Gibson. They are going nowhere.

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

Or Miguel Sano.

Sniderlover
5 years 29 days ago

The asking price will likely come down but they’ll still want a good prospect back.

Encarnacion's Parrot
5 years 29 days ago

It is possible that instead of the asking price going down, the Jays might be willing to add a prospect to upgrade it.

Encarnacion's Parrot
5 years 29 days ago

It is possible that instead of the asking price going down, the Jays might be willing to add a prospect to upgrade it.

Sniderlover
5 years 29 days ago

Jays would have to add a significant prospect… or better yet, add another player like Bautista or Buck. Before the Yankees made the trade for Berkman, I was thinking Bautista + Downs for Montero + decent prospect would be plausible. Montero value has taken a hit since he can’t stay at catcher but he’s still an elite prospect. But with the Yanks acquiring Berkman, I don’t think they will go after Bautista but could still offer Chamberlin + for Downs.

Encarnacion's Parrot
5 years 29 days ago

Keeping with the trading for Montero hypothetical, what about Downs + Zach Stewart + some low-A B- prospect for Montero? I find Stewart not really needed anymore with Syndergaard and Wojciechowski in the fold. Besides, Stewart is kind of a bland name and wouldn’t fit in with the rest.

Sniderlover
5 years 29 days ago

Personally, I would do it but I don’t think Yankees wold want quantity over quality.

Encarnacion's Parrot
5 years 29 days ago

Agreed. Besides the need for bullpen help, all that the Yanks really need is an experience upgrade to their bench and the Jays don’t really have that, hence 2 prospects. You could try Downs + Frasor + Stewart I guess, but the chances of that flying is pretty low right now too.

Dave_Gershman
5 years 29 days ago

Yeah thats what I was thinking. I mean there is a good chance that if they get a 1st round pick for Downs, it could be a bust. It could be the next Evan Longoria or Ryan Braun, but it could also be the next Dewon Brazelton. So why not just try to get what you can get. Angel Morales is the exact player who AA wants to have in the Jays organization. That’s just an example, but there are some great prospects out there not named Casey Kelly and Jesus Montero.

Dave_Gershman
5 years 29 days ago

Yeah thats what I was thinking. I mean there is a good chance that if they get a 1st round pick for Downs, it could be a bust. It could be the next Evan Longoria or Ryan Braun, but it could also be the next Dewon Brazelton. So why not just try to get what you can get. Angel Morales is the exact player who AA wants to have in the Jays organization. That’s just an example, but there are some great prospects out there not named Casey Kelly and Jesus Montero.

zeroes
5 years 29 days ago

Yes, but look at any top 100 prospects list from the last decade, and you’ll find plenty of busts there as well. The payout from two high picks is probably pretty close to that of one top 100 prospect, depending on the organization and draft philosophy.

But otherwise, yes, the Twins do have other pieces that they could probably use to make a deal work.

Sniderlover
5 years 29 days ago

I agree but a player like Chamberlin is plausible. He hasn’t improved at all and is just a flame thrower.

The player that interests me from Boston aside from Kelly is Kalish. He is an OF and we don’t have any OF prospects that are ready and if Bautista ends up getting moved, this is who I would target.

deere5800
5 years 29 days ago

Are you somehow implying that Dewon Brazelton was a bust? Blasphemy!!!

5 years 29 days ago

Dewon Brazelton’s #1 Enemy: Dewon Brazelton.

5 years 29 days ago

Dewon Brazelton’s #1 Enemy: Dewon Brazelton.

firealyellon
5 years 29 days ago

Twins will be kicking themselves for a long time with that Ramos trade

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

Not really. It was a bad trade but we won’t be kicking ourselves.

mauerfan
5 years 29 days ago

Not really. It was a bad trade but we won’t be kicking ourselves.

jwredsox
5 years 29 days ago

Ramos last season had more HRs than walks, GL in the majors with plate discipline like that.

5 years 29 days ago

Every team should want Downs.

5 years 29 days ago

Every team should want Downs.

5 years 29 days ago

Toronto needs to trade or fire AA. He is the WORST in MLB !!!

iains
5 years 29 days ago

Worst what? Certainly not GM. BO? I’ve never stood close enough to the man to know for certain.

5 years 29 days ago

He’s actually one of the best GM’s in baseball, just look at the trades he has made and the talent he has brought in and who they’ve drafted. IMO I’d rate him in the top 5 GM’s in baseball and maybe higher. He has completely turned around that franchise in the little time he has been there, and they may be a playoff team in 2 to 4 years and would be one if they weren’t playing in the AL East. Asking for too much in return doesn’t make you a bad GM, it makes you a good GM if you can make it happen.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
5 years 29 days ago

like, wtf are you talking about?
are you saying the Brandon-Brandon trade, Fred Lew, and Yunel-Alex trade was bad?
only dent in his name is the wallace-gose trade and we won’t even know who won that trade for at least 5 years

eviola1
5 years 29 days ago

Are you a moron?

5 years 29 days ago

not sure we can really evaluate AA as a GM yet … he really needs to turn some (or…all) of these fluky performances into future talent, like he did with Gonzalez

little too early to say he’s top 5, I think, since he hasn’t won anything — but most of his moves have worked out so far, so he’s definitely on the right track

let’s see if he’s as good at roster construction as he is at talent accumulation!

5 years 29 days ago

not sure we can really evaluate AA as a GM yet … he really needs to turn some (or…all) of these fluky performances into future talent, like he did with Gonzalez

little too early to say he’s top 5, I think, since he hasn’t won anything — but most of his moves have worked out so far, so he’s definitely on the right track

let’s see if he’s as good at roster construction as he is at talent accumulation!

5 years 29 days ago

The sheer number of people who missed the sarcasm (For his sake I hope he is being sarcastic) is astounding…

5 years 29 days ago

Toronto needs to trade or fire AA. He is the WORST in MLB !!!

aap212
5 years 29 days ago

Downs was traded to the Twins for Mike Morgan, then to the Cubs, then traded out with Rick Aguilera. It would be sort of cool to see that thread come back to the Twins.

aap212
5 years 29 days ago

Downs was traded to the Twins for Mike Morgan, then to the Cubs, then traded out with Rick Aguilera. It would be sort of cool to see that thread come back to the Twins.

nick1538
5 years 29 days ago

What would the Twins send the Jays since they got rid of Ramos? They just got Gose as a “CF of the future” so I don’t see Angel Morales or Ben Revere being a good fit. Bromberg and Slama?

zeroes
5 years 29 days ago

They likely never had any interest in Ramos anyway. They already have 3 catching prospects that are likely to be on BA’s top 100 list this offseason (Perez, d’Arnaud, Arencibia) and two more with legitimate chances to be major league catchers (Jeroloman, Jimenez). I think they’d still be interested in Morales though.

5 years 29 days ago

You can never have enough prospects like Angel Morales or Gose.

5 years 29 days ago

morales or revere would be a good fit. Blue jays need as much prospect’s as possible

5 years 29 days ago

I think Jays GM must be on some type of medication, he’s been stupid lately.
too high on Gose.
now word that the Jays plan to KEEP Bautista/. WTF!?!?! Bautista should be a gots to go guy! he will NEVER have the value he has now. he WILL get a raise in the offseason, and he WILL be way over priced for 2011. I’d bet my left nut that he comes back down to regular type numbers next season. nothing in his career suggest he should ahve the numbers he has this season.

S8P7W
5 years 29 days ago

If everyone in baseball knows that Bautista’s stock will never be higher, then no one will offer equal value.

S8P7W
5 years 29 days ago

If everyone in baseball knows that Bautista’s stock will never be higher, then no one will offer equal value.

5 years 29 days ago

I think the fact your name is SpecialEd means I don’t even have to justify saying anything.

5 years 29 days ago

I think the fact your name is SpecialEd means I don’t even have to justify saying anything.

5 years 29 days ago

his left nut is probably already gone from all his stupid bets and suggestions

5 years 29 days ago

We all know how you feel about Bautista, specialed. You feel the need to state it in every Jays related post. Thanks for all your insightful contributions.

5 years 29 days ago

We all know how you feel about Bautista, specialed. You feel the need to state it in every Jays related post. Thanks for all your insightful contributions.

eviola1
5 years 29 days ago

Keeping Bautista was always the most likely thing to happen. You Americans have to understand the the Blue Jays are not “sellers” in the true sense of the word like the Nats, Astros, O’s etc. Jays are going to be competing as early as next year and Bautista seems to fit perfectly into the puzzle. So plz stfu, you’re really annoying.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
5 years 29 days ago

Jose just hit #31 … a Grand Slam…

5 years 29 days ago

whoop whoop.

Sniderlover
5 years 29 days ago

He is becoming quite a fan fav, eh?

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
5 years 29 days ago

Jose just hit #31 … a Grand Slam…

BoSoXaddict
5 years 29 days ago

Call me crazy but I really believe there is at least a decent chance that at the last minute Theo gives the Jays 2 prospects for Downs and 1 of them is Kalish. Kalish and a pitcher not named Kelly most likely.

firealyellon
5 years 29 days ago

we don’t know that. Capps’ super low walk rate fits the team philosophy better. dumb way to go, but quite possible.

firealyellon
5 years 29 days ago

we don’t know that. Capps’ super low walk rate fits the team philosophy better. dumb way to go, but quite possible.