Players To Avoid Arbitration: Tuesday

Today is the deadline for players and teams to submit arbitration figures. The sides will then settle on a salary between the team's proposed number and the player's proposed number or go to an arbitration hearing. Arbitration eligible players are under team control, so the clubs don't risk losing them – it's a question of how much the players will earn.

Yesterday, 11 players avoided arbitration. We could see just as many agreements trickle in today and we'll keep you posted on them right here and with our Arb Tracker. The latest updates will be at the top of the post:

  • The Padres avoided arbitration with Chase Headley (2.535MM) and Tim Stauffer ($1.075MM), according to's Corey Brock (on Twitter).
  • The Phillies and Kyle Kendrick avoided arbitration with a $2.45MM deal, according to Jon Heyman of (on Twitter). The team has confirmed the deal.
  • The Pirates announced that they agreed to terms with Joel Hanrahan. It's a $1.4MM deal, according to Colin Dunlap of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (on Twitter).
  • The Cubs agreed to a one-year deal with Tom Gorzelanny, despite reports that a trade to Washington is imminent. Gorzelanny will earn $2.1MM next year, according to Mark Zuckerman of (on Twitter). They also announced a two-year, $4.7MM deal with Sean Marshall.
  • The Diamondbacks agreed to a one-year deal with Joe Saunders.
  • The Padres agreed to a $2.535MM deal with Mike Adams, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter links).
  • The Angels agreed to a $3MM deal with Erick Aybar and a $2.975MM deal with Kendry Morales.
  • The White Sox agreed to a $5.05MM deal with Carlos Quentin, according to Rosenthal.
  • The Braves agreed to a $3.1MM deal with Martin Prado and a $3.25MM deal with Jair Jurrjens according to Rosenthal.
  • The Orioles agreed to a $5.85MM deal with J.J. Hardy, according to Rosenthal.
  • The Athletics agreed to a $4.75MM deal with Kevin Kouzmanoff, according to Slusser (Twitter link).
  • The Giants avoided arbitration with Cody Ross, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link). Ross will earn $6.3MM in 2011.
  • The Red Sox avoided arbitration with Jonathan Papelbon ($12MM) and Jacoby Ellsbury ($2.4MM).
  • The Yankees avoided arbitration with Joba Chamberlain ($1.4MM), Phil Hughes ($2.7MM) and Boone Logan ($1.2MM), according to Jon Heyman of (all Twitter links).
  • The Dodgers agreed to a $6.275MM deal with Chad Billingsley, according to Heyman (on Twitter).
  • The White Sox agreed to a $6MM deal with John Danks, according to Heyman (on Twitter).The Cubs avoided arbitration with Matt Garza and agreed to a $5.95MM deal, according to Heyman (on Twitter).
  • The Indians avoided arbitration with Shin-Soo Choo, the team announced. The deal is worth $3.975MM, according to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer (on Twitter).
  • The Twins avoided arbitration with Matt Capps ($7.15MM) and Glen Perkins ($700K), according to Joe Christensen of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune (on Twitter).
  • The Rays avoided arbitration with Andy Sonnanstine, agreeing to a deal worth $913K plus incentives, according to Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times (on Twitter).
  • The Mets avoided arbitration with Mike Pelfrey, agreeing on a deal worth close to $4MM, according to Adam Rubin of
  • The Brewers avoided arbitration with Prince Fielder and Manny Parra, signing the players to one-year deals, the team announced. Parra will earn $1.2MM, according to's Adam McCalvy (on Twitter).
  • The Athletics avoided arbitration with Dallas Braden ($3.35MM) and Conor Jackson ($3.32MM), according to's Jane Lee (on Twitter).
  • The Blue Jays agreed to a one-year, $2.3MM deal with Brandon Morrow, the team announced.
  • The Indians announced that they agreed to a one-year deal with Rafael Perez (Twitter link). It's worth $1.33MM, according to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer (on Twitter).
  • The Athletics avoided arbitration with Josh Willingham, agreeing to a $6MM deal, according to Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle (on Twitter).
  • The Astros signed Michael Bourn to a one-year, $4.4MM deal, according to's Brian McTaggart (on Twitter).
  • The Nationals announced (on Twitter) that they avoided arbitration with Michael Morse.
  • The Marlins avoided arbitration with Anibal Sanchez, according to's Joe Frisaro (on Twitter). They agreed to a $3.7MM deal, according to Enrique Rojas of (Twitter link).
  • The Orioles avoided arbitration with Felix Pie, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun (Twitter links). The deal is for $985K.
  • The Blue Jays avoided arbitration with Rajai Davis, agreeing to a two-year, $5.25MM deal with the outfielder.
  • The Marlins avoided arbitration with Clay Hensley and agreed to a $1.4MM deal, according to's Joe Frisaro (on Twitter).
  • The Astros agreed to a one-year, $2.3MM deal with Jeff Keppinger, avoiding arbitration, according to Zachary Levine of the Houston Chronicle (on Twitter). The Astros confirmed the deal.
  • The White Sox agreed to a one-year, $1.6MM deal with Tony Pena, according to Jon Heyman of (Twitter link).
  • The Padres avoided arbitration with Ryan Ludwick with a $6.775MM deal, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter).
  • The Astros avoided arbitration with Clint Barmes, signing the infielder to a one-year, $3.925MM deal, according to Rosenthal.  The Astros confirmed the deal.
  • The Rockies avoided arb with Felipe Paulino and agreed to a one-year, $790K deal, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter).
  • The Blue Jays announced that they have agreed to terms with Yunel Escobar on a $2.9MM deal for 2011.
  • The Indians signed Chris Perez for 2011, avoiding arbitration, the team announced (on Twitter). It's a $2.225MM deal, according to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer (on Twitter).
  • The Royals announced that they agreed to terms with Kyle Davies on a one-year deal, avoiding arbitration. It's a $3.2MM deal, according to's Dick Kaegel (on Twitter).
  • The Reds avoided arbitration will Bill Bray, according to John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer (on Twitter). The AP says the deal is for $645K.
  • The Nationals avoided arbitration with Doug Slaten, and agreed to a one-year, $695K deal according to Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post.
  • The Padres avoided arbitration with Heath Bell and agreed to a one-year, $7.5MM deal.

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135 Responses to Players To Avoid Arbitration: Tuesday Leave a Reply

  1. vtadave 5 years ago

    $3.2 million for Kyle Davies? Seems a bit high, but then again, he did put up a 2.0 WAR season and is still just 27.

    • Red_Line_9 5 years ago

      I was going to post almost the same thing. This is the real problem with payroll. Players like Davies getting $3.2M. Mediocrity has never cost so much.

  2. Lunchbox45 5 years ago

    Decent raise for JU NEL.. what an awesome pick up for the jays, hoping for big things for him in 2011!

  3. $1529282 5 years ago

    $790K for Paulino just goes on to make that trade even more of a steal. Great deal for Colorado.

  4. Pie for $985,000 is a good deal.

  5. Exposfan 5 years ago

    If the base-stealing statistic was a stock options, I’d buy it right now!

    With the contract that Bourne and Rajai Davis got, seems this statistic leads to a ton of money for speedy players. Yeah you need to get on base for attempting steals but you get the point..

    Wonders what Podsednik is thinking right now..

  6. I don’t see the Angels or Twins signing their arb eligibles here. Two of the longer lists among the clubs. Better get busy!

    • PushDown 5 years ago

      the angels signed aybar and morales… the only significant arb-eligible player they have left is weaver

      • Those deals must have been announced within the last hour. Huge bargain on Morales. Even though he injured himself last year, there’s no reason to believe he won’t have another great season.

    • Angels signed Callaspo and Mathis last week and Morales and Aybar today. Weaver, Napoli and Willits is who remains.

  7. Exposfan 5 years ago

    Matt Capps is one happy camper!

    For 400K more, I’d go with Heath Bell anyyyyyytime.

    • buffalonichols 5 years ago

      And so would the Twins. Too bad he wasn’t available.

  8. WOW @ Matt Capps. That’s pretty rough for the Twins. Pavano’s gonna be working for free I guess.

    • popular_mechanics_for_pitchers 5 years ago

      not a very “twin” like move

  9. klassic 5 years ago

    It would be much easier if you kept all the teams arbitration signings together. Then I don’t have to scan the list for each of my team’s signings.

  10. $1529282 5 years ago

    SEVEN MILLION for Capps? Bill Smith should be fired. Trade one of our top prospects for this guy, who has nearly identical peripherals to the closer we already had, then tender him a contract for $7 MILLION, when that money could’ve gone toward two or even three relievers who are better than the junk we have right now. JJ Hardy’s $6-$7M was too expensive but we’re going to pay this clown that much for 60 innings? What a joke.

    • TwinsVet 5 years ago

      Great rant. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

      What’s worse than a set-up man making double the market average? Giving up a Top-5 prospect out of your farm for the “privilege” of overpaying him.

      • buffalonichols 5 years ago

        I think people are looking at the Capps thing the wrong way. He’s needed as insurance for Nathan this year and possibly as a closer (unless he craps the bed this year) after 2011. Yeah, the team is overpaying for a set-up man, but when Nathan is still a question mark this year and going forward, what else were they supposed to do? Hand it to Jesse Crain or Matt Guerrier?

        • TwinsVet 5 years ago

          Or Rausch.

          Any of those would provide cheaper “insurance” for virtually identical performance.

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            Except Rauch wanted a multi-year deal. Plus I think the Twins pretty much knew he wouldn’t sign here. I’d heard from a local reporter that he wasn’t very happy when they took the closer role away from him after he struggled a bit. So there was next to zero chance he was coming back.

            I supposed you could come back with Fuentes, but I don’t want him as a closer. Give me Capps and his numbers — and the 8 years he has on Capps — over Fuentes, who, since he’s from an area two hours east of Oakland, likely would have taken a multi-year deal around $6 mil for the Twins to sign.

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            And to be clear, the Twins are obviously setting themselves up for potential changes after the 2011 season. Depending on how Nathan and Capps do this season (and with Cuddy’s deal also up) they could easily go out and find a new closer in free agency or through a trade. Don’t get tied down with any mediocre options out there (Fuentes, Crain, etc.) when you could find your long-term closer down the road.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            Instead of getting “tied down” to a mediocre option for a 1-year deal (plus option), we’re getting tied down to the tune of double-the-paycheck to a mediocre option.

            I look at it this way: Capps is costing $3.5M more than the market rate for his caliber of arm. That’s $3.5M that could be used to go sign Vlad to a 1-yr deal. Or getting 2 Rausch’s. Etc etc etc.

            Sorry man, we just disagree on this one. I can’t find value in Capps at $7M.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            And think about next year, Twins can’t offer him arbitration cause he might get 10 million. Yikes.

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            I’m sorry, but Vlad wasn’t coming here to be a part-time player.

            Again, Capps has value because he’s an insurance policy and while you are paying him more than other relievers got, you’re not tied down with him. Pretty easy to understand.

            This is about what Capps was projected to get, so I guess I don’t understand all the sudden negativity. This isn’t a surprise at all.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            The negativity is for the same reasons my girlfriend gets pissed when I remind her I hate her mother – it re-open’s old wounds.

            As for Vlad – that’s merely an example of one of a dozen ways to spend an extra $3.5M. That kind of money can go a LONG ways. I don’t enjoy just pissing it away.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            For the multi-year thing, it’s not like he got that guaranteed. He could only be with the Jays for a year, because the second is only an option. I’d still easily do that over Capps any day.

            Did not hear that about the closer stuff though, definitely a possible reason for his departure. Plus, it sounds like the Twins only went after Crain. And Crain said they didn’t really go after him…so….

          • popular_mechanics_for_pitchers 5 years ago

            Rauch signed a one year deal with an option

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            My point was that he wanted one and considering his attitude toward the Twins, it would have taken at least that to get him back here, if he was even willing to do so.

          • popular_mechanics_for_pitchers 5 years ago

            The twins had too keep Capps because they just traded one of their best prospects for him. It just doesn’t seem like a move that we normally expect out of the twins. I agree with you that Rauch is searching for some save opportunities with the Jays

          • lolpods 5 years ago

            would you really want multiple years of rauch? i don’t have the numbers in front of me, but i would bet he’s a candidate for some pretty hard regression.

        • 0vercast 5 years ago

          Yes, they should have kept the closer duties in house. Rauch was doing a pretty good job, Crain had just heated up and he all know hot he stayed until Sept, and Guerrier was his usual steady self, and Fuentes was a Twin two months after they got Capps. They still would have cruised to the finish line without Capps.

      • You guys are crazy. Ramos didn’t hit when he got called up for the nationals last year. Ramos is not the prospect you think he is. Mauer is our catcher, let ramos struggle to hit the breaking ball with another club. Capps was an all-star last season and will be a valuable piece to our bullpen especially when Nathan does not perform to nathan-like standards. We had to have a legitimate closer and Jon Rauch is not that. Gambling that Nathan is gonna bounce back completely after having major reconstructive surgery is a terrible idea. 7 mill is a great price for an all-star closer.

        • TwinsVet 5 years ago

          1. I don’t care about Ramos’ performance in a limited sample size. I care that he was ranked a Top-5 prospect by the scouting organizations.
          2. I don’t care that Capps made the all-star team. So did Ty Wigginton. Every team gets 1 representative, and Capps was the token Nationals player. This is the same Matt Capps who, this time last year, was a free agent after being non-tendered. And he signed cheap, with a last-place team.
          3. All the metrics indicate Rausch = Capps. I suppose you could argue Rausch doesn’t have the “experience” of closing in the “pressure cooker” of NL basement-dwelling teams…

          Seriously, you need to study up on what exactly being an “All-Star” means. The game is a joke. Fan voting, each-team-at-least-one-player… it’s the furthest measurement from a “good performer” as you can find.

          $7M for a mediocre setup man is not a great price. It’s not even a good or fair price. It’s a terrible price. Especially when you can replace his exact statistical performance for half the price.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            Well said.

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            Rauch was mediocre to terrible for three months last season. His career numbers are also worse than Capps. Yes, Capps was non-tendered, after the worst year in his career. Every other year he’s been more than solid. Give me Capps any day, even at the $7 mil level.

          • buffalonichols 5 years ago

            Also, Rauch wasn’t coming back to the Twins. It’s worth factoring that in as well.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            I haven’t seen this whole “Rauch hated MN and would never have come back” storyline before.

            My bottom line is if I’m spending $7M and a top prospect, I want a helluva lot more than a Matt Capps.

            And if I’m stuck with Capps, then I’ll gladly just go the cheap route and spend half-or-less of that on an indistinguishable replacement.

          • azdsnd 5 years ago

            As an Arizona Diamondbacks fan, allow me to tell you that Matt Capps is absolutely superior to Jon Rauch. (Yes, I know this is a terrible argument. I would rather have Capps, but not because the D-backs happened to get him for the worst year-long stretch of his career.)

            Also, Rauch used to close for the Nationals. I know that’s only relevant to your “joke,” but I’m just sayin’.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            You realize neither are very good, right? The peripherals are indistinguishable. And one costs over double what the other one does.

            I don’t want EITHER guy closing for my contending club. But if I have to get stuck with one, I’ll take the cheaper option.

            And if I’m going to spend $7M and a top prospect, I want someone damn good.

          • PhilsFan420 5 years ago

            “I care that he was ranked a top-5 prospect by the scouting organizations”

            Umm, so was Lastings Milledge. The scouting organizations still just guess. Granted, their educated guesses, because they see them play, but their still guesses. Should the Twins have gotten more for one of their top prospects? Of course! But Capps is a proven major leaguer. To discount his all-star status because the all-star process is ridiculous doesn’t add up. The Nationals had more than 1 good player – Ryan Zimmerman being the obvious one.

            Ramos could be great. Ramos could suck. No one knows. What we all know is that Capps is a very solid reliever who could be the 2nd or 3rd best setup man in the AL and is terrific insurance for Nathan. Who knows what Nathan will be this year. Its VERY possible that Nathan ends up hurt or ineffective coming off his injury. Nathan could end up on the DL or as the setup man…with Capps as the closer. Then all of a sudden, $7.15 million wont look so bad.

        • Lady_A 5 years ago

          Oh, Capps was an ALL STAR? That makes up for everything. Now I’m ecstatic about this signing….

    • twins33 5 years ago

      It’s not surprising. I believe he was predicted to get 7 when people were guessing. It sucks. I’d much rather have Rauch at 3.5. Even if they were the same price, I’d rather have Rauch.

    • 0vercast 5 years ago

      Bill Smith will be the death of this team. It appears he learned nothing from Terry Ryan.

      • jhawk90 5 years ago

        ’07 rabble rabble rabble we’re so cheap!!! we can’t keep any of our own players!!!
        ’08 rabble rabble rabble we can’t sign Mauer with Morneau etc.’s contracts!!!
        ’09 rabble rabble rabble we still can’t afford Mauer!!!
        ’10 rabble rabble rabble we can’t afford anything with Mauer making so much!!!
        ’11 rabble rabble rabble we’re spending too much money on a 1-year closer/plan B!!!

        • twins33 5 years ago

          That is very accurate and funny. Though I think ’08 is off, at least for me. I didn’t think Morneau would hinder a Mauer contract, though I did think a Santana one would make it hard to extend either.

          Once Santana was gone, I knew Mauer would easily be kept, as long as he wanted to stay.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            I agree. I think things could’ve played out much differently had Santana accepted that 5/100 extension offer from the Twins.

  11. Mario Saavedra 5 years ago

    I think the Pads overpayed for both Ludwick and Heath Bell.

  12. rizdak 5 years ago

    Ugh – as a Padres fan, why did we give $6.775M for Ludwick? That’s how a .631 Petco OPS gets rewarded? Padres are signing too many 30-something players whose best years are behind them – Bartlett, Hawpe, Ludwick, Hudson… The team should be getting younger, not older. $7.5M for Bell was an overpay too.

    • azdsnd 5 years ago

      Because, unlike you, Jed Hoyer doesn’t flip out over small sample sizes.

      • rizdak 5 years ago

        You’re right. He uses the 2009 Baseball Prospectus instead.

  13. penpaper 5 years ago

    Choo continues to get paid WAY below market value. Awesome deal for the Indians. I imagined they would at least try to work out an extension though.

    • Jason Klinger 5 years ago

      That surprised me, too. This guy should be making double what he just got paid (just south of $4 million).

    • azdsnd 5 years ago

      Most under-appreciated player in baseball, by far. He’s a legitimately elite player, with 10.9 FanGraphs WAR in the last two years, yet that apparently only gets him $4MM…

      • Guest 5 years ago

        With that logic, Chad Billingsley should get like 12 million dollars.

  14. Sniderlover 5 years ago

    “The Angels agreed to a $3MM deal with Kendry Morales and a $2.975MM deal with Kendry Morales.”

    Angels didn’t get to sign any of their big UFA so they are now resorting to cloning. Cheaters!

    • I truly thought he’d get the combined amount of those contracts.

      • Actually, it’s the new way to pay switch-hitters. He gets $3 mil from the left side and $2.975MM from the right.

  15. grant77 5 years ago

    Kendry Morales gets 2 contracts, good for him!

  16. Now Bautista is the only guy who the team still has to settle on a new contract with. All of these deals look very reasonable to me. It’s nice that at worst the club will be going through arbitration with one player. That takes a lot of pressure off of AA and the front office.

    • Upton’s is a little ridiculous to put it nicely…

      • Slopeboy 5 years ago

        If you have a problem with Upton’s salary, just be thankful he hasn’t played up to his real abilities. Had he played with with purpose instead of ego the last few years, he’d be making serious money right now.

        • Yeah. Talk about a guy who can’t focus. He has every physical tool needed to be an elite player, he just can’t put it together.

      • Guest 5 years ago

        5 million for elite defense and there is always the chance he can crazy with the bat? Please send him to the Dodgers.

  17. If the White Sox can specify that the $5.05MM goes to 2008 Carlos Quentin, this is a great deal for them. If the 2009-2010 version shows up… not so much.

  18. Hardy for $5.85 million is ridiculous. But he is light years better than Cesar Izturis. That’s what I keep telling myself.

    • TwinsVet 5 years ago

      People in Minnesota actually told themselves he’d cost $6-8M, and used that as comfort in shipping him off for nothing.

      • twins33 5 years ago

        Yeah, 6-7 were common numbers thrown around. I would have taken him at 6-7 and now even more so that it’s cheaper.

        • buffalonichols 5 years ago

          Hardy wasn’t coming back. The Twins didn’t like how he milked his injury last year. They were fine with him missing some time, but he took it to extremes. Seems weird to me fans will rip a player like Mauer for last year (when he still led all MLB catchers in at-bats and was second only to McCann among games played) yet will give Hardy a free pass for his season.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            Well, if I was a fan who ripped Mauer than I would agree with you. You can’t lump me in with them though, because I don’t.

            And a bone bruise, which he had, usually takes months to heal. That’s why it took so long, especially considering it was in his wrist and that’s an important part of the body in baseball. It was going to take awhile to heal and I don’t exactly trust our medical staff as they generally get an injury wrong 2-3 times a year.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            I rip Mauer because we’re paying him 2009 MVP dollars for 2010 “Very good but not near MVP” performance.

            I defend Hardy because, when you combine both offense and defense, he’s the 2nd best SS in the AL last year – and that’s not debatable, it’s statistical fact.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            Where are you getting those stats from? I have it as Ramirez, Pennington, Jeter, Hardy…

            That surprises me even, considering all the time he spent nursing his bruises. The guy was an excellent fielder, no doubt about it, but he was worthless at the dish. I can’t stand watching Hardy bat. Good riddance.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            Even when he was hitting .304/.363/.442 in his last 54 games? You thought that was bad? I don’t think you can expect every player to hit .300/.400/.500 (complete random numbers) for an entire season.

            The fact that JJ put up league average numbers for a SS while playing excellent D is a rare find. It means he hit what the average MLB SS did, while providing great D (which the avg SS does not do).

            Heck, the Twins medical staff is becoming widely known as a bunch of buffoons with all of their mistakes in the last five years. Hardy came back too soon from that injury and played awful for two weeks (.139/.184/.167). Take out those two weeks, when he was clearly playing hurt, and he puts up a .283/.335/.421 line for the season. I’m pretty sure those numbers would have put him way up there offensively in terms of SS’s.

            It’s bad when the Twins haven’t had a real SS since Gagne and fans do not realize what they had. We’ve had so many bad SS’s it seems like it would be easy for fans to spot a good one…especially our, likely very long, list of craptacular SS since Gagne. If you don’t like Hardy, than you didn’t like Gagne either.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            Thats a good argument. He did do very, very nicely during his healthy spell at the end of the year and I always enjoyed watching his defense. My Dad and I split a set of seats right above the Twins dugout and he were always talking about his suburb throwing accuracy to first. But I had soured on him by the time he hit his stride in August for his fragility and extreme lack of clutch hitting. How many times did Hardy have the crowd at Target Field on their feet while trailing in the late innings only to have a miserable at bat, often striking out swinging? I saw more of that than with any other Twin in the last few years, even Punto. I can’t really argue with the metrics, they tell one story, but I saw another. That $6M is better spent elsewhere on bolstering the pen or extending Liriano or Delmon, IMO.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            I can see a point there, but it’s not like guys like Thome didn’t do the same thing. I was at 3-4 games where Thome had a chance to tie or win the game, sometimes more than once in the game. In at least half of those times, he didn’t pull through either. He would strike out instead. Though I did see the first walkoff HR in TF that was done by him…amazing.

            I can think of about 3 or so game winning hits provided by Hardy, he didn’t screw up all the time. Neither did Thome, but it happened to both.

            I can understand why you’d be rough on him for the first half though, but to me, it looked like his swing was still messed up from all of the different ones he tried in 2009. He said he tried everything to fix his swing that year. Vavra was working with him and it was starting to work and then he got the bone bruise. I really think he just had bad luck.

            If Casilla turns out great, then maybe I can forget about Hardy, but it will be pretty tough. Casilla has a lot to live up to in my eyes, even if they use the money to extend Liriano or Delmon, preferably Liriano first.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            Yeah, I know what you mean about Thome. It seemed that while Morneau was healthy, more often than not the only time Jim Thome got an opportunity was in a pressure packed pinch hitting situation, where oftentimes it didn’t exactly go as planned. How can you not like Thome, though? I was able to see his walk-off vs CWS and Thornton, my favorite moment of last season.

            Hardy did have some clutch hits the more I think of it. Maybe my dislike of him is unjustified. I just have a very negative impression of Hardy’s time as a Twin. But just one year is a pretty small sample size in the grand scheme of things. Bad luck could very well be the case. Time will tell.

            I’m a Casilla fan. I think he has excellent potential. I just hope he can live up to it.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            I don’t think any sane person hates Thome, but I honestly feel the same about Hardy. Well, not exactly the same, but I find it hard to figure out the people who don’t like Hardy.

            If health is/was a knock then fine, I have zero argument against that. He hasn’t been 100% for a few seasons now. The rest of it though, he’s shown to be one of the top SS in the league and that is completely worth that contract. And when he is healthy, he puts up very good numbers, especially for a SS.

            I want to be a Casilla fan, but he’s so far only shown that he can be a part time player. Hopefully that is past him because I do see that the talent is there.

          • TwinsTapir 5 years ago

            If we had anything resembling a bench, that might not have been such an issue. I don’t think you can reasonably blame Hardy for the existence of Butera and Tolbert.

          • Snoochies8 5 years ago

            He said “combine both offense and defense”, Pennington shouldn’t be grouped in there, he has no offense, although he is one of the best defensive shortstops.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            Ah, I see you’re using WAR.

            I’m going by Alexei being the only SS with a better UZR and OPS.

            As for “worthless at the dish”, his OPS was .714. Wanna take a look back at past opening day SS?

            2010 Hardy: .714 OPS
            2009 Punto: .621
            2008 Harris: .721
            2007 Bartlett: .699
            2006 Castro: .565
            2005 Bartlett: .651
            2000-04 Guzman: .709 (rough avg.)

            Aside from Harris’ fluke season, he’s the best hitting shortstop we’ve had in a decade. And 1 of 3 to post a >.700 OPS (Guzman only did it once, in 2001).

            I haven’t done the research, but I suspect Hardy’s UZR is the best in the past decade.

          • 0vercast 5 years ago

            Yes, he was the best hitting SS of those bums. The only one worth a damn was Guzman.

            What can I say? I think the money is better spent elsewhere, and I think the Hardy trade was a good opportunity to “____ or get off the pot” with Casilla, which needed to be done. Hardy’s trade netted a decent power arm in Hoey in the process, and he’s in line to be vastly overpaid in FA after the 2011 season. He was only going to be a here for one more season anyway.

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            That’s fair. I’d just rather see 5M spent on a quality SS than 7M on a mediocre CL. Tough day in that regard.

            I’m a believer in alexei since I met him in 07 spring training. But we need proven assets, at least 1, at MI if were gonna win now. I don’t like going into 2011 with 3 INF who’ve never played a full season and a 4th with injury issues. Looks more like a rebuilding club than a contender in that regard.

          • twins33 5 years ago

            Yeah, the whole infield right now is questionable because we have no idea about the following:
            Valencia: will he slump?
            Casilla: will he be able to hold down a full time job?
            Nishioka: how’s the transition going to go?
            Morneau: how’s the noggin?

            That can be answered quickly in a good or bad way once the season starts Hopefully not bad, but it’s hard to expect that they’ll all be great, which is basically what we’re depending on…

          • TwinsVet 5 years ago

            Right. Which is why I’d feel better having hardy around through spring training at least.

            Deal him if the MI look competent. And they could get a similar return. Maybe better if someone elsewhere got hurt…

  19. Based on the list above, it seems a lot of teams are overpaying for mediocrity. Am I alone on this? Would you pay Capps, Kouzmanoff, Jeff Hardy, Clint Barmes, Ryan Ludwick, Kyle Davies, the money agreed upon?

    • Jeff 5 years ago

      There is no way in hell that Kyle Davies is anywhere as good as Jajr Jurrjens, who is going to be one tempting piece of trade bait this season.

    • twins33 5 years ago

      Capps…no way he deserves that. Hardy, I really think he’s worth that…but I also expect a big year from him.

    • TwinsVet 5 years ago

      It’s a bit misleading to say teams are “overpaying”. These aren’t free agent signings. They’re taking a calculated risk to agree to this figure, out of fear an arbitrator could award an even uglier amount…

      • BrocNessMonster 5 years ago

        I think that some people are suggesting that, for the sake of the salaries, some of these guys maybe should have been non tendered.

  20. “The Cubs agreed to a one-year deal with Tom Gorzelanny, despite reports that a trade to Washington is imminent.”

    Um, if he’s going to Washington, shouldn’t they be the one’s avoiding arbitration with him. The Cubs could sign him to a $10-billion contract, and screw Washington’s payroll.

    Does anyone else see this as a problem?

    • vonhayesdays 5 years ago

      definitely strange , hell Gorzelanny could request Cliff Lee style money , the cubs could agree then ship him to the nationals to foot the bill, However maybe the trade isnt so imminent . Dare i say mlbtr isnt correct (never)

      • elbeisbol 5 years ago

        This trade isn’t just on MLBTR, it’s on the Nationals site and the Cubs site. Not sure how the trade could be “not imminent”.

        • vonhayesdays 5 years ago

          I have never been to either one of those sites nor will i ever , but dont count your trades until the said player gets his new uni to put on with his slacks and tie. all im sayin is why would a team agree to let another team do their artbitration. go expos , and thank you bud for screwing baltimore over again….

          • “all im sayin is why would a team agree to let another team do their arbitration.”
            Same here!

  21. Prado and Jurrjens at that money is a steal for the Braves in both absolute and relative terms.

    Now that they have better framework on their payroll, expect them to add an outfielder in the coming weeks.

    • They have a more pressing need for a backup middle infielder. I think they’ll go with their internal options in the outfield, Mather, Hinkse, McLouth, Heyward, Young, Schafer, and Prado. Whereas they really only have Brandon Hicks and Diory Hernandez capable of backing up SS or 2B, and both are dreadful players.

  22. In what crazy mixed up universe does Aybar get more money than Morales?

    • I was thinking the same thing… I feel like that is a steal for Morales, i could have seen him get 6 million and would have thought that was a steal

      • TwinsVet 5 years ago

        For a guy who missed serious time last year, and hasn’t yet proven he’s fully healed?

      • Well, they’re the same team that somehow thinks Jeff Mathis is worth a million bucks.

    • TwinsVet 5 years ago

      Not positive… but isn’t it Aybar’s 2nd year of arb, and only Morales’ first?

  23. good money spent for the braves. good deals on both guys. hope they both stick around for a while.

  24. BrocNessMonster 5 years ago

    Bills, Danks, and Garza all get around the same this year, but Bills a little more, the year before he got a little more… I’m thinking Ned has been pretty generous…

  25. nats2012 5 years ago

    That cant be right about Capps, we payed him 3.5 last year. 7+ mil, that seems pretty expensive.

    • buffalonichols 5 years ago

      Given his numbers over the last couple years, there was a chance he could have gotten even more from an arbiter. The $7 million figure is around what I had seen projections for him getting this year.

  26. nats2012 5 years ago

    The Cubs had to settle with Gorz, he hasnt taken his physical yet, once thats done he a Nat.

    • vonhayesdays 5 years ago

      amaro throws money around like pacman at a strimpe club

  27. Muggi 5 years ago

    $2.45m for Kyle Kendrick? Wow.

    He’s not even guaranteed the rotation slot if Blanton is traded, and he’s got very limited experience as a longman. So…don’t see why Amaro agreed to that.

  28. popular_mechanics_for_pitchers 5 years ago

    it’s Rauch, no “S”

  29. popular_mechanics_for_pitchers 5 years ago

    Does anyone expect the Blue Jays to sign Jose Bautista to a multi year extension this offseason? My guess a…. one year 7mil

  30. kdub53 5 years ago


    • HerbertAnchovy 5 years ago

      That’s already been answered accurately by TwinsVet, and please stop yelling.

      • kdub53 5 years ago

        sorry didnt realize my voice was so loud…ill wisper from now on just for you :)

  31. Reggie Willits needs to get out of the Angel’s system. I feel like this guy could be a quality, high OBP, speedy outfielder for a lot of teams.

    • He’s a fourth outfielder on a good team.

      • Trade Willits to the Braves for a quality pitching prospect, they have very good arms in their system. Plus everyone knows the Braves need another quick outfielder.

  32. azdsnd 5 years ago

    I bet you think you’re witty. The concept of regression says that Ludwick is likely to recover next year. He’s the only power hitter the Padres have left, for crying out loud.

  33. kdub53 5 years ago

    id take joba or phil hughs at those contracts for sure

  34. oz10 5 years ago

    As a Rangers fan I was expecting Cruz to be in the 7-9 a year range and with another year like this past go over the 10 mark next year. His contract is a huge bargain. And even CJ Wilson at 7 mil is good for an ace caliber lefty (assuming he repeats last year). Wilson will cost somebody 15-20 mil a year if he repeats and becomes a free agent. As long as I don’t have to see him in pin stripes I will be semi ok with it.

  35. PushDown 5 years ago

    If the Angels had locked up Kendry with a multi-year deal, and prevent themselves the hassle of dealing with Boras, that would be Sweeeeeeeeet. But that’s just wishful thinking.

  36. yeah agreed. Phil Hughes at 2.7 or Shin-Soo at 3.975 have to be the biggest bargains.

  37. Choo deal is by far the best. He is worth at least double that. Also, consider how much Nick Markakis is making, and Choo is practically a clone of Markakis.

  38. InLeylandWeTrust 5 years ago

    15-20 a year….?

  39. I agree. You’ve got to factor in that Hughes was a first timer though. Joba for $1.4 could be a steal if he gets his act together.

  40. kdub53 5 years ago

    very true..
    it seems as thought the yanks wanna off joba…I know hes a bit shaky…but i have a feeling if he were to get moved he would “prove” himself

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