Phillies Links: Howard, Contracts, NL East

The Phillies won 102 games during the regular season, but won only two during the best-of-five NLDS. Because last night's loss to Chris Carpenter and the Cardinals wasn't bad enough, Ryan Howard suffered a serious Achilles injury on the final play of the game. Let's round up the latest from Philadelphia…

  • In a press release, the team announced that Howard has a rupture of his right Achilles tendon. He'll have surgery after the swelling subsides, and a timetable for his return won't be known until after the procedure is performed. There is "no guarantee he will be ready for spring training," says the release.
  • Bob Brookover of The Philadelphia Inquirer dug through the Phillies roster, and says they might have to go over the luxury tax threshold next season in order to patch all their holes.
  • David Murphy of The Philadelphia Daily News put together of list of questions the Phillies must answer this offseason. Howard's injury figures to impact their 2012 plans.
  • MLB.com's Brian McTaggart wrote about the key contract decisions the team has to make. The Phillies have about $113MM in commitments for next season, but Jimmy Rollins, Ryan Madson, Brad Lidge, and Roy Oswalt can all become free agents (Lidge and Oswalt have pricey options).
  • Ben Goessling of MASNSports.com says the Phillies could open a window of opportunity for the other teams in the NL East if they decide to fill some of their roster holes with youth.


194 Responses to Phillies Links: Howard, Contracts, NL East Leave a Reply

  1. bayareabeast 4 years ago

    HAHAHA

    • Yeah injuries are hilarious, stay classy.

      • Threat_Level_RedSox 4 years ago

        Maybe he’s laughing at the fact the Phil’s got knocked off.

        • hscphillyboy 4 years ago

          Maybe he should articulate that then…………There Brandon is that a big enough word for ya………….

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          He shouldn’t be… his team didn’t even make the playoffs…

          • bayareabeast 4 years ago

            with the team you guys had, im aloud to laugh as hard as i want in ever single philly fans face. HAHAHA and i wasnt laughing at howard you tards

          • Wow not only did you spell ALLOWED wrong but you also used the word “tards”. You clearly are not an intelligent person.

          • bayareabeast 4 years ago

            haha that i did my friend..that i did

          • jwsox 4 years ago

            Really? You’re never allowed to laugh when a good player who seems to be an all around good person gets a serious potentially career ending injury.. By your logic you should have laughed when Posey broke his leg, or at least not been upset if some other fan laughed when he did that. And I’m willing to bet you were extremely upset and felt bad for buster when that happened and were upset if fans from other teams laughed at him. Dude you should probably stay off this site…yeah a buch of us are rude some times but never when it deals with a serious injury, that might end a good if not great players career

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            In the division that you play in, it’s pathetic that you didn’t win your division. Just proves how much of a fluke they really were last year.

            I remember when Carlos Beltran was the move that was supposed to push the Giants over the top and guide them to their 2nd World Series in a row.

          • Reaper87 4 years ago

            it only takes one dummy to make you say something dumb in return? giants didn’t have a good year, but last year was no fluke. y’all got beat by a better team

          • CaseyBlakeDeWitt 4 years ago

            Do you honestly think the Cardinals are a better team than the Phillies?

          • Beat them 9 times  to 5 losses this year… What more proof do you need?

          • CaseyBlakeDeWitt 4 years ago

            Cincinnati beat St Louis in 9 out of 15 games, and San Francisco beat St Louis in 5 out of 7. Does that make the Reds and Giants better teams than the Cardinals?

          • Reaper87 4 years ago

            What matters most is who’s the best team at the time they play. During the season, the Cards were far from the best team. But late in the season they started hitting like we knew they could and got strong pitching performances. So it was a fluke that Carpenter shut them down? Then I guess it was a fluke that both Texas and Philly couldn’t seem to hit vs the Giants last October. Definitely not elite pitching cooling off elite hitting

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            One team had the best record in baseball and the other had to scratch and claw their way to get in.

          • Gary Cooper 4 years ago

            Cardinals still playing and the Phillies are not.  Sounds like they were the better team.  

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            “The team with the best record is the best team” – Billy Beane (paraphrasing).

            The Cardinals were the right team at the right time.

          • John DiRienzo 4 years ago

            good to know that every team in baseball is the best team in baseball until October.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            They were a fluke for making the playoffs…

            They had career years from EVERYONE on their team… Aubrey Huff – Fluke. Pat Burrell – Fluke Cody Ross -Fluke. Renteria – Fluke. Without those performances, they don’t take over take the Padres and you know it.

            What they did in the playoffs wasn’t… what they did to get into the playoffs was.

          • Beatofficer 4 years ago

            It’s called having hot streaks, it happens in baseball all the time, with EVERY SINGLE PLAYER. Ryan Howard is the perfect example of this, he’ll get hot and absolutely scorch the ball, then he gets cold, where he can’t even hit a 85 mph fastball down the middle of the plate.

            Another perfect example is Burrell, he was awesome at the end of the year, but in the playoffs he disappeared, hot streaks.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            Pat Burrell’s never hit in the playoffs. Is he a streaky player (yes, I watched him for years). He hit 18 home runs with the Giants last year in 96 games. In 2009/2011, in 200+ games, he hit 21. It may be a hot streak or it may be a fluke performance.

            Those performances by those players were unsustainable. That’s why they were a fluke for making it in. The Giants NEVER had the offense to become the Phillies or the Braves, or whomever, like a lot of people thought. (I wanted the Giants to win that division btw, so I’m not a Giants hater).

            They had relatively the same team this year minus Posey and Sanchez and Uribe (who were replaced with Keppinger, Caberera, and Beltran). They were in 1st PLACE when they acquired Beltran. A lot of people picked them to repeat.

            I don’t want to take a shot at the Giants, their pitching won that championship fair and it’d be childish for me to say otherwise… but when you have one of their fans saying “with the roster you guys have”… I merely replied that the roster the Giants had, in the division they play in, they should have been in the playoffs this year. The reason they’re not would make them a fluke team because if they didn’t have the offense this year, it’s almost the same roster as last year… so if they didn’t have the offense this year, they shouldn’t have had the offense last year.

          • Reaper87 4 years ago

            Renteria a fluke? For what, having a couple hits and a series-clinching home run after sucking all year long? If you knew anything about Aubrey Huff, he is a contract year guy… who was signed to a one year deal coming off a down year. Cody got hot in October, but show me even one team that won a World Series without a few guys getting hot at the right time and having a few balls bounce their way.

          • Beatofficer 4 years ago

            I love all this fluke talk, by that logic, wouldn’t the Phillies be a fluke? They won 2008 then they were “Supposed to win” in 2009, 2010, and now 2011, yet they failed all three years. People are ridiculous.

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            They were a fluke for making the playoffs.

            … and the Yankees were the favorite to win the World Series. THE METS were picked to go to the World Series.

          • Beatofficer 4 years ago

            You realize that 99% of the community that says the Giants were a fluke are talking about their World Series win, right? If you look at the history of baseball, this stuff happens all the time, parity always seems to find a way despite there being vastly different payrolls and what not. The Giants fought all the way to the end to get their playoff spot, then rode that momentum in and through the playoffs. When you have an amazing pitching staff and a couple hitters get absolutely hot, like Cody Ross and Edgar Renteria did, two players who were almost least likely to get the job done, then you’re able to win games.

            I’ll never understand why people get so angry, irrational, and into full on personal attack mode over sports. You know a lot of these guys are friends when they’re not playing each other, right? They think the “fans” who take it too serious are crazy, right? They want you to enjoy and love their team, through hard times and good times, not go out and beat up a fan of another team, puke on a little girl for your team, put someone in a coma ’cause they’re a fan of another team, or even murder someone because they’re wearing a jersey of the other team, it’s pathetic. This turned into a rant, sorry!

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            I don’t think they were a fluke for winning the World Series… they had THE PERFECT TEAM to win the world series. They have a scrappy ball club. Just like the Cardinals do. That’s why the Cardinals/Giants beat the Phillies. Those teams are designed to beat them. The lefty relievers, the pesky hitters who don’t strike out, who make contact, etc.

            They play in the 2nd most winnable division in baseball. They had almost the same team as last year. That’s why I said they were a fluke for making it because if they don’t get those unsustainable performances from guys like Burrell, Huff, etc, they don’t make the playoffs. Burrell was off the scrap heap.

            The Phillies were out Managed and out played in 2010, and 2011. I’m not a homer. I’ll admit that they failed. I won’t admit those teams, the Giants, the Cardinals are better than the Phillies.

      • East Coast Bias 4 years ago

        Not the injury, the loss. 

      • bayareabeast 4 years ago

        wasnt laughing at that.
        #stillclassy

        • what happened to that staff full of aces #phillies #overrated

          • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

            That’s why their top 3 starters had an era under 2.80, 190+ strikeouts, and led the league in shut outs/complete games.

            How are they overrated or do you just want to “hate on them?” Because I saw Halladay out pitch Chris Carpenter and still lose Game 5. I saw Cole Hamels pitch 6 scoreless innings with a bad elbow and a hernia. I saw Roy Halladay record 21 consecutive outs.

  2. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    I ruptured my achilles last November.  It’s still not 100%.  Ryan could miss the season.  Granted, he has much more available to him in physical therapy and equipment then I had.

    • Bino9 4 years ago

      my brother had to retire from being a cop for rupturing his achilles for chasing down a perp. That injury is really serious, and he still can’t run and he injured himself in 07. I hope Howard can recover from this and hope it’s no where near as serious as it can be and that it’s just hopefully a mild sprain.

  3. So far he has a two (2) season ending outs streak !!! , he has manage to not touch first base in neither of the two (WOW)… way to go! Lets si what interesting way to end the season you provide next year!

  4. joe bascio, im just loving all this!!

  5. jondogg2010 4 years ago

    Nah he’ll be fine for opening day. Especially with all that’s available to MLB players.

    • bigpat 4 years ago

      Hopefully that is the case. However, it’s taken Kendry Morales two years to recover from a broken leg… 

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      He’s not Chase Utley. Isn’t it at least a 6-12 month recovery…? I read that last night somewhere… I can’t remember which website since I wasn’t in the greatest state of mind after that game.

      • hscphillyboy 4 years ago

        I thought maybe you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…………….

      • hscphillyboy 4 years ago

        I thought maybe you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night…………….

  6. NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

    Phillies offense went to sleep and so did the Phillies themselves. No matter what rotation you have you need offense.

    6 of the top 10 teams in Era did not make the playoffs. (Including the Giants)

    I am a true believer that offense is just as valuable as pitching and it has proven to be true.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      They’re just such a calm team there really isn’t a sense of urgency with them (it seems).

      The Phillies have an offense that outscored the Brewers… (I think or it was really close)… it’s just not consistent. Their offensive philosophies are outdated, IMO. As an organization, they don’t value on base percentage for whatever reason. Their line up other than Utley is nothing but a bunch of free swingers… some very good free swingers though.

      • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

        I don’t really care about the phils. 

        but as a Jay fan, I was really hoping Doc won the WS.  It was such a tough loss for him 

        • Rabbitov 4 years ago

          It wasn’t a situation where the Phillies blew it either.  The Cardinals won it the only way they could and earned it.  Some posters said it  could happen (you may have been one of them), but color me shocked the Phillies actually lost this one. 

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          He was absolutely dejected after that loss. You could tell he felt it.

          … and he came through too. It was the 9 guys behind him that failed. That game he pitched was one of the best pitched games I’ve ever seen. Any other pitcher would have folded after the 1st.

  7. David Murphy is really multitasking

  8. ironnat 4 years ago

    The three teams that tried to buy a series – one doesn’t make the playoffs the other two out in the first round.  That is what is funny.

    • Guest 4 years ago

      …says the guy who’s team probably hasn’t broken .500 in 20 years. 

      • Infield Fly 4 years ago

        You can’t really say that without knowing which team he follows. Do you happen to know?

      • Laney Bizzle 4 years ago

        No team in MLB has gone 20 years without breaking .500

  9. start_wearing_purple 4 years ago

    The only problem with that game last night was it wasn’t game 7 in the World Series. Classic postseason game, and it usually seems like I get disappointed when there’s an ace v. ace duel.

    Now I just want a Tigers/Cards rematch!

  10. baybombers 4 years ago

    102 wins and it doesnt mean anything…

    • NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

      It means that they were a powerhouse team that ran into some tough luck in the playoffs.

      • greggofboken 4 years ago

        Tough luck?  Did they have their top starter out for the entire season?  The Cards did.  That’s tough luck.  Did they have one of their top power thrreats playing compromised and only available for half the games?  The Cards did w/Holliday.  That’s tough luck.  What the Phillies ran into were themselves and their own paltry offense, and critical lack of clutch hitting.  That’s what they ran into.

        And a squirrel.

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          Tough luck by drawing the hot team. The Cardinals are going to steamroll through the NL Playoffs. Nothing against the Diamondbacks/Brewers… but the Cardinals were really the only team in the National League that could beat the Phillies. (on paper).

          • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

            I agree, but teams match up differently, while I wouldn’t take have taken the brew crew to beat the phils, I’m def taking them to beat the cards.. but it will be a good series

      • baybombers 4 years ago

        Powerhouse in the regular season, there are no excuses buddy hahaha. Tough luck is a total excuse, once october started they got outplayed. Simple as that

  11. j6takish 4 years ago

    With the Red Sox missing the playoffs and the Phillies and Yankees both being eliminated, Major League Baseball has made the decision to cancel the remainder of the post season.

    “Eh….whats the point now?” – B. Selig

    • Brendon 4 years ago

      His Brewers are still alive!! If the DBacks won, then he’d be done w the post season

  12. NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

    Wouldn’t be surprised if J-Roll and Oswalt left.

    • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

      Imo, Oswalt is getting banged up and is deciding if he should pitch again. And Rollins is looking for money, so i could see a phillies team without these two.

    • WrigleyTerror37 4 years ago

      Imo, Oswalt is getting banged up and is deciding if he should pitch again. And Rollins is looking for money, so i could see a phillies team without these two.

  13. EdinsonPickle 4 years ago

    I hate this! Sure, it’s a feel good story for the Cards to make it into an all out grudge match with the same Brewers that knocked them out of the Divisional race, but Roy and Cliff are two of my favorites and once again neither will get to wear a World Series ring! When will fate’s cruel waves bring forth a nugget of gold for our valiant heroes from its frigid waters of despair!!!

    • Infield Fly 4 years ago

      You put up some fun posts. Of course, from this one it sounds like you overdosed on sci-fi movies and stuff, but still…  😀

      • EdinsonPickle 4 years ago

        I’m pretty sure I overdosed on the nausea brought forth by watching the Phillies trying to squeeze across a single run for nine innings. Alas, I think it’s time to put my Tigers cap on and root Justin Verlander on so he can put the finishing touches on an awesome season. Cy Young, MVP, and World Series Champ? Whoa.

        • Infield Fly 4 years ago

          Should be good. I am a big Verlander fan myself. This year he’s just so good it’s outta control. If he doesn’t come away with the Cy Young something is seriously wrong in the world of baseball.

          So you were rooting for the Phils, and now the Tigers for the playoffs, but which is your favorite team during the regular season?

          • EdinsonPickle 4 years ago

            I used to be a huge Cubs fan, and while I still am, I’ve kind of evolved to the point where I kind of like all of the teams now. All of them possess something to cheer about, but I guess more than anything I enjoy rooting for my favorite players such as Halladay, Lee, and Verlander.

          • Infield Fly 4 years ago

            Very cool. I follow a few teams myself (and there are a few that I hate as well – largely because of their fan base). I also think anyone who genuinely loves baseball will stretch beyond the limits of their passion for one particular team and appreciate the other amazing talent around the League. A lot of my favorite players are not on the teams I follow most — and may never be!

          • Infield Fly 4 years ago

            Very cool. I follow a few teams myself (and there are a few that I hate as well – largely because of their fan base). I also think anyone who genuinely loves baseball will stretch beyond the limits of their passion for one particular team and appreciate the other amazing talent around the League. A lot of my favorite players are not on the teams I follow most — and may never be!

  14. crashcameron 4 years ago

    i thought the phillies were too top heavy, shiny but fragile as thin glass. but what really worried me was the way they rolled over to the Yankees in that WS. large talent, smaller kahunas

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      The Phillies didn’t roll over.

      Their rotation was:

      Cliff Lee, Pedro Martinez, Cole Hamels (in his worst season), and Joe Blanton. The Yankees rotation was great that year in the playoffs.

      Neither team really played their best baseball in that series but it’s hard to say the Yankees didn’t completely destroy the Phillies that year.

  15. William Kafer 4 years ago

    The first half of this comment thread(?) is a prime example of angry bandwagon fans just lashing out at one another. The Phillies and Giants ARE NOT rivals, and there’s no need for such animosity between fans of teams that aren’t even playing each other. This is only one example, but you give the rest of the fans a bad name. It happens for far too many teams too.

    I, for one, am actually glad that most of the bigger market teams like the Red Sox, Phillies, Yankees, etc are out of it this year, so we can focus less on contracts/disputes/fan-bashing and more on baseball. That, and I no longer have to deal with the fans who only come out during the playoffs and judge entire seasons based on a week of games, or who know very little about baseball but are so pissed when “their team” loses.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Game 6 of the NLCS and That series in San Fran this year would dispute the fact that they’re not rivals. Neither team likes each other.

      I’m glad these teams lost (obviously I’m upset the Phillies lost… but they didn’t deserve to win)… because it proves high payroll does not equal a championship.

      The Phillies 2 highest paid players (Howard and Lee) choked. Sabathia, Arod, and Tex choked for the Yankees, etc.

      • William Kafer 4 years ago

        But I don’t think 3 series makes a rivalry. They were intense games, but it’s hard to be that angry about a team 3k miles away that you only play twice (maybe three times) a year.

        I do like the point you made about high-priced players costing teams games, and the one TDKnies and you both made about high-payroll teams not always winning championships.

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          It goes back further than that. In 2009 (?) Sanchez threw a ball over Utley’s head. Chase stared him down… stepped out… Sanchez got mad… and Utley took him deep…  Then they met in the playoffs and Utley and Sanchez had their little beef over the HBP and Utley flipping the ball back… and then then they had their bench clearing this year… It also goes back to the 2009 all star game for Giants/Phillies fans as there was a lot of outrage over Charlie not taking Sandoval.

          It’s more of a post season type rivalry with a lot of tension and whatever. It’s hard to have a real good rivalry now a days though with all the players being best friends.

          … at the very least, Sanchez and Utley dislike each other.

      • William Kafer 4 years ago

        But I don’t think 3 series makes a rivalry. They were intense games, but it’s hard to be that angry about a team 3k miles away that you only play twice (maybe three times) a year.

        I do like the point you made about high-priced players costing teams games, and the one TDKnies and you both made about high-payroll teams not always winning championships.

    • I like seeing the big teams get knocked out too, but mostly for another reason.  People (not on MLBTR for the most part, but other places) always complain that baseball isn’t fair because there isn’t a salary cap like the “better” sports.  Seeing the high payroll, big market teams fall like this is proof enough for me that their argument is crap (not that I personally needed more proof to believe it).

      • Slopeboy 4 years ago

        I agree with you on the salary cap issue being bogus. I, as a fan of the biggest payroll team understand the feelings that other fans from the smaller market teams have. But I have been a Yankees fan before Steinbrenner bought the team and suffered through 12 and 16 year droughts of terrible baseball. All the while the owner spent more than anyone else did and no one complained about the big payroll.

        My team got knocked out, and while it’s bad for me, it’s good for Baseball.
        It continues to reinforce the fact that putting together a winning team is not about only payroll. I’m rooting for the Tigers to go to the WS against the Cards.

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          Phillies fans feel the same way. I remember when I was a kid and Scott Rolen forced his way out. (I barely remember that… but I remember it). We lost Curt Schilling because he knew the front office wouldn’t spend the money to build a winner.

          The Phillies were a very cheaply run organization for a very long time, but once they got the revenue, they took off.

      • Slopeboy 4 years ago

        I agree with you on the salary cap issue being bogus. I, as a fan of the biggest payroll team understand the feelings that other fans from the smaller market teams have. But I have been a Yankees fan before Steinbrenner bought the team and suffered through 12 and 16 year droughts of terrible baseball. All the while the owner spent more than anyone else did and no one complained about the big payroll.

        My team got knocked out, and while it’s bad for me, it’s good for Baseball.
        It continues to reinforce the fact that putting together a winning team is not about only payroll. I’m rooting for the Tigers to go to the WS against the Cards.

      • Twinkilling61 4 years ago

        I agree that it’s good for baseball, but I don’t like seeing the best teams getting knocked out in the first round. It diminishes six months of greatness. I know that you have to win in October, but I’d like to go back to just 4 teams in the playoffs. I just feel as though some inferior teams get into the playoffs when they weren’t deserving and they pull off upsets. I’m a Twins fan and I am convinced that a team like the Blue Jays was just as good as them the last few years. How is that fair to them?

        • VadaPinson 4 years ago

          The twins playoff record shows that sometimes not all teams get some luck during the playoffs.  I do not consider any of the teams that go into the playoffs this year as inferior.  All we hear is the AL East day after day.  They have 3 good teams….while Central only had really 1.  Rangers and Angels are good teams.  It’s not all about the AL East.  The Giants and Braves were still good teams this year.  NO bad teams got in.  

          I like the way the Twins have developed their organization.  The reds, the team that I follow, I wish could go on a run like yours.  They paid the price for years of Marge and her “What good are scouts for except watching games” mantra and she stripped one of the Top 5 scouting departments in the mid 80’s down…..and it took over 15 years to recover.
          I find it ironic that once they started spending money they had one of their worst years.  

        • “I don’t like seeing the best teams getting knocked out in the first round”- This is the sentiment around the country about baseball today. Even when St. Louis knocked off teams with substantially higher payrolls loaded with all-stars they are treated like they have no business moving on to the next round. The audacity of these inferior teams with inferior payrolls outplaying the fatest wallet teams. I am sure that MLB would Love it if Boston, The Yanks, and Philly were in every last League championship series. I am glad there is no spending cap in baseball, it brings out the comedy and the fingerpointing at the end of the year. If they could only get rid of the guaranteed contracts…

          • John DiRienzo 4 years ago

            what are you even blabbering about dude. he didn’t say “highest paid” he said “best”

          • John DiRienzo 4 years ago

            what are you even blabbering about dude. he didn’t say “highest paid” he said “best”

  16. eyedessert 4 years ago

    I think we can all agree that a Philly Phire Sale is in order.

    • phil33 4 years ago

      Thats exactly what you do after setting a franchise record for wins.

  17. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    I think 2012 is the perfect year to go young in the line up.

    At the very least (on paper) with Halladay, Lee, and Hamels the Phillies are good enough to win the Wild Card.

    I’d hate to see Jimmy go but if they do, I’d like to see Galvis in the line up batting 7/8th.
    I’d like to see them resign Madson… or get a veteran closer (that’s the one spot they can’t afford to go young)… Braves just proved that this year.

    Mayberry at first base, Brown in left field (they need to let him play every day no matter how bad he is… it paid off for the Braves and Freeman). If they don’t feel Brown is ready… maybe they could sign a stop gap 1st baseman and platoon he and Mayberry. (like a Derek Lee).
    My line up:
    1. Victorino
    2. Polanco
    3. Pence
    4. Utley
    5. Mayberry
    6. Brown
    7. Galvis
    8. Ruiz
    9. Pitcher

    … not a bad line up. Galvis is a + defender and is probably a .250 MLB hitter. Can’t be much worse than Chooch offensively.

    • slider32 4 years ago

      The Phills need to call Wade and get another Asstro!

      • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

        Why stop at one? We could use Wandy as a 4th starter… Ruben should just fly down to Houston with a shopping cart.

    • slider32 4 years ago

      The Phills need to call Wade and get another Asstro!

    • hscphillyboy 4 years ago

      That lineup will land us in 2nd or 3rd place.

      • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

        I’m fairly new at using these statistics so If I’m wrong, don’t shoot me, but:

        Howard (according to baseball reference) was worth 2.7 WAR this year.
        Ibanez was worth -0.4
        Rollins was worth 3.7

        … where do you see the Phillies finishing in 3rd place with a full year of Pence?

        They improve in the outfield and they take a hit in the infield but with the pitching they have, they’d still be at least a wild card favorite.

      • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

        … besides that line up is worst case senario… I’d like to see them sign Derek Lee. He’s still got a glove and still hits for some power. It would then allow Mayberry and Brown to have a straight platoon situation.

        My top 3 free agent priorities

        1. Locking up a closer. Whether it’s Madson or Jonathan Papelbon or whomever… somebody who I know is going to save a 1-0 Cole Hamels start. Someone who I know isn’t going to tire in September. Someone who I know isn’t intimidated to pitch in the playoffs.

        2. Veteran First Baseman/Third Baseman
        I want Michael Cuddyer or Derek Lee. Someone who can hold the fort for Howard. I’d be comfortable going into the season with Mayberry and seeing if he can handle being an every day player if the Phillies can’t get that done.
        Cuddyer appeals to me because he can play 1st this year, he can back up Polanco at third and allow Mayberry to switch to first if Polanco gets hurt… or if Chase gets hurt… then when Polanco’s contract’s up… he moves to third base.

        3. Hamels/Pence
        These two need to be locked up. ’nuff said.

    • hscphillyboy 4 years ago

      That lineup will land us in 2nd or 3rd place.

  18. LUWahooNatFan 4 years ago

    2012 in the N.L East is going to be nuts

    • dirtydez 4 years ago

      Doubt it. 

    • dirtydez 4 years ago

      Doubt it. 

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Not really. It’s still more than likely going to be Braves/Phillies unless the Nationals do something big.

      Marlins and Mets will fade away at the All Star break like they generally do.

      2013 should be interesting though. The only reason I say the Nationals won’t be a huge factor in 2012 is the innings limit on Strasburg.

      • Guest 4 years ago

        The Nationals’ owner has great deal of money that he wants to throw into the Nationals to get them into contention.  NEVER doubt the power of money.  I honestly think 2012 will change everyone’s perception of the Nationals.  The Phillies will be very good, despite the questions, as will the Braves.  2012 could indeed be an interesting year for our division.

        But yea, the Marlins and Mets?  Well… I’m not as optimistic.  Most divisions don’t really have more than two or three teams seriously making a run at it, though.

        • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

          I think the Nationals come on strong but unless they sign an ACE + Fielder, they’re going to have to shut their ACE down or limit him significantly. Once that happens, I can’t see them challenging anything.

          I think they’ll be very good but I don’t think they’re ready for the race without Strasburg at 100%.

  19. $5474103 4 years ago

    As a dodgers fan, I got so much pleasure watching the phillies choke last night…thank you, st. louis. With that being said, I felt bad for Howard injuring himself. I hope he recovers during the off season so that he can play in 2012.

  20. $5474103 4 years ago

    As a dodgers fan, I got so much pleasure watching the phillies choke last night…thank you, st. louis. With that being said, I felt bad for Howard injuring himself. I hope he recovers during the off season so that he can play in 2012.

  21. The Cardinals rotation next year of Wainwright,Carpenter,Garcia,Shelby Miller and whoever is the 5th starter could be one of the best in baseball

    • stl_cards16 4 years ago

      No it won’t.  At the start of the year it will be Wainwright(hopefully), Carpenter, Garcia, Lohse, and Westbrook.

      Miller will start the year in Memphis and if things look good he will probably be the first one called up when another starter is needed.  I don’t think there’s any chance he breaks camp with the big club.

  22. William Kafer 4 years ago

    What about Blanton and Dom Brown for Seth Smith, Ian Stewart, and Huston Street, with the Rockies paying $6M of the $8M they owe Street? That gives the Phillies someone to platoon with Mayberry in LF, a back-up 3B (and maybe 1B?) with potential to take over for Polanco next year, and a veteran back-of-the-bullpen guy that could be your closer if you can’t re-sign Madson or sign Bell. The Rockies get a high upside RF to play with Blackmon and Gonzalez, and the innings-eater they’re looking for while White/Pomerantz/whoever develops. You have 3 years each of Smith and Stewart for 5-6 years of Brown.

    Combine that with a few other signings, and you could end up with this:

    C: Ruiz
    C: SCHNIDER (re-sign)
    C/1B: DOUMIT (as FA, can fill in at 1B while Howard is hurt)
    1B: Howard
    2B: Utley
    3B: Polanco
    SS: Galvis
    IF: STEWART (via trade)
    IF: Valdez
    LF: Mayberry
    CF: Victorino
    RF: Pence
    OF: SMITH (via trade)

    SP: Halladay
    SP: Lee
    SP: Hamels
    SP: Worley
    SP: Kendrick/Mathieson/minor-league signing

    CL: MADSON/BELL (re-sign/as FA)
    SU: STREET (via trade)
    RP: Bastardo
    RP: Herndon
    RP: Stutes
    RP: LIDGE (re-sign cheaply)
    RP: VETERAN LHP FA SIGNING

    I don’t know how the money works out or if they can afford this, but it looks like a solid team to me.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      I think Ian Stewart would be great guy to target.

      I was wondering this on another website, is there any teams that would swap their #1 third base prospect with Domonic Brown? A team that has the Patience to allow him to develop and fix the mistakes the Phillies developmental staff placed on him?

      • William Kafer 4 years ago

        Ian Stewart and Pedro Alvarez were the first guys I thought of to replace Polanco. Teams would certainly listen on offers that net them Brown, wouldn’t they? The other option could be Moustakas, but I think the Royals would rather have him than Brown. Ditto for Lawrie.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      I think Ian Stewart would be great guy to target.

      I was wondering this on another website, is there any teams that would swap their #1 third base prospect with Domonic Brown? A team that has the Patience to allow him to develop and fix the mistakes the Phillies developmental staff placed on him?

  23. William Kafer 4 years ago

    What about Blanton and Dom Brown for Seth Smith, Ian Stewart, and Huston Street, with the Rockies paying $6M of the $8M they owe Street? That gives the Phillies someone to platoon with Mayberry in LF, a back-up 3B (and maybe 1B?) with potential to take over for Polanco next year, and a veteran back-of-the-bullpen guy that could be your closer if you can’t re-sign Madson or sign Bell. The Rockies get a high upside RF to play with Blackmon and Gonzalez, and the innings-eater they’re looking for while White/Pomerantz/whoever develops. You have 3 years each of Smith and Stewart for 5-6 years of Brown.

    Combine that with a few other signings, and you could end up with this:

    C: Ruiz
    C: SCHNIDER (re-sign)
    C/1B: DOUMIT (as FA, can fill in at 1B while Howard is hurt)
    1B: Howard
    2B: Utley
    3B: Polanco
    SS: Galvis
    IF: STEWART (via trade)
    IF: Valdez
    LF: Mayberry
    CF: Victorino
    RF: Pence
    OF: SMITH (via trade)

    SP: Halladay
    SP: Lee
    SP: Hamels
    SP: Worley
    SP: Kendrick/Mathieson/minor-league signing

    CL: MADSON/BELL (re-sign/as FA)
    SU: STREET (via trade)
    RP: Bastardo
    RP: Herndon
    RP: Stutes
    RP: LIDGE (re-sign cheaply)
    RP: VETERAN LHP FA SIGNING

    I don’t know how the money works out or if they can afford this, but it looks like a solid team to me.

  24. TimotheusATL 4 years ago

    I, for one, favor the abolishment of the luxury tax. We really need to give these teams a chance to make it to the World Series.

    signed,
    disgruntled braves fan

  25. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Wow. Hamels had loose bodies, and an inguinal hernia. Pence had a sports hernia. Polanco has a hernia and god knows what else… and Howard has a ruptured achillies.

    … is anyone healthy on this team anymore?

    • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

      no ones healthy in october

      • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

        They’re getting old. Obviously nobody’s healthy but they’re really starting to break down as a team.

    • NYPOTENCE 4 years ago

      Getting old in Philly

  26. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    The swelling doesn’t “subside”.  I had my surgery 8 days after rupture.  5 weeks in a cast and my foot still looked like an elephant foot. 

  27. StanleyHudson 4 years ago

    Phillies fans should be pushing Amaro jr to sign Casey Kotchman. He’s had a really solid year(and always plays solid defense.

  28. StanleyHudson 4 years ago

    Should Howard miss the majority or miss the entire season, that is.

  29. James Czerwinski 4 years ago

    WAH!!!! …the Giants had the most trips to the DL then anyother team in MLB this year and still had a winning record.  Best record means nothing….the Phillies have no heart….no bench…no BP and they are the oldest lineup in MLB.  The window is closed if they don’t get rid of Rollins and Polanco.  I would also try too trade Utley in the offseason.  The Giants have a nice young staff….nice young core players and a good minor league system in place.  How bout trading us Howard for Brandon Crawford/Brent Pill right now????  This way your team will have a SS and 1B too start the season.

  30. JST1331 4 years ago

    Chances are we wont look into free agency but if we do. I wouldn’t mind guys like 

    1. Derek Lee 
    2. Michael Cuddyer (who can move to the outfield when Howard gets back or if he doesn’t stay at first, although chances of that happening are slim since the Twins want to lock him up) 
    3. Casey Kotchman who probably wont come here and will probably stay with the Rays
    4. Carlos Pena who I think could be a nice option, despite his average I think he could give this lineup some pop.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      I suggested D. Lee at another Website. I like his bat, would come cheap, and can still play defense.

      My favorite guy is Cuddyer and I hope they make him a priority. He can become a stop gap 3rd baseman once Polanco’s contract is up.

  31. James Czerwinski 4 years ago

    Stupid trade….nobody wants Blanton nor Brown….Brown can’t hit in the Minors…most overrated prospect this year.   He won’t even make the team next year.  

  32. James Czerwinski 4 years ago

    The Nationals will be big in FA this offseason.  They will make a push for Fielder and also CJ Wilson….they will be better than people expect.  Look for a big bounce back from Werth!!

    • Gary Cooper 4 years ago

      I don’t see Fielder going to play in Washington, I just don’t.  One of the west coast teams – Dodgers, Giants, or Angles are going to overbid on the guy and he will sign with them.  Picked a bad year for his FA year with BOS and NYY not needing a 1B. 

  33. Manuel needs to go with some others. If the Phils pulled back on the Braves in the last series they would most likely would be WS bound. They may have to muscle but not too much upstairs. At the time the Braves were terrible! Lost their 2 most impactful pitchers and wern’t hitting at all. On the otherhand, the Cards were streaking and really firing on all cylinders. I don’t know why any team would choose to play them, but thats exactly what the Manual did.  I guess their goal for the season was to win as many regular season games as possible. Mission Acomplished!

    • Scott Layne 4 years ago

      Any team like the Phillies that thought they were the best team in baseball shouldn’t be afraid of ANY team in the playoffs. That’s why Manual played the game right. You really expect him to pull back, go into the playoffs on a horrendous losing streak just so he could play a non-streaking team?

      The Phillies got beat. Get over it. They could have gotten beat by the Braves too… especially if the Phillies let the Braves beat them at the end of the season and renew their confidence.

      At the end of the day, no team should be afraid of another team, and should be able to beat the best teams (that’s what the playoffs are ya know). Teams that win the World Series aren’t afraid of other teams. I respect the Phillies for playing the game right and not being afraid to play the better team between the Cards/Braves.

      I have a much harder time respecting most Phillies fans… with the comments I so commonly hear/see them say.

      • Scott Layne 4 years ago

        And for the record… this comment is directed at that mindset that the Phillies made a mistake by “letting” the Cardinals in the playoffs… not directed at you.

    • Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

      Any team would have beaten the Phillies in the first round the way they hit this year.

      … as for letting up against the Braves. They lost 8 games in a row. They needed to get back into a Rhythm. It’s the Braves fault for not winning.

  34. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    a class war in the streets, a no-class war online

    this is what happens when there is only 1 baseball game per day

  35. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    Why do you automatically think he’s laughing at the injury?  The injury is horrible.  It is also HELLA funny that the Phils couldn’t get past the first round.

  36. vtadave 4 years ago

    Yeah getting rid of Cliff Lee and Vance Worley makes a ton of sense right?

  37. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Halladay, Lee, Hamels
    Utley, Pence, Ruiz (defensively… offenseively, our fanbase overrates the crap out of him).
    bullpen: Bastardo, DeFratus… and I’d like them to sign Madson.

    Howard has no value any more. Maybe if he didn’t get hurt you could eat 35-40% of his contract and go after one of the 2 big name first basemen in the open market… but now they’re in a tough place.

  38. jwsox 4 years ago

    the funny thing if youre going to get your best hauls from trading the two people you dont want to trade ha

  39. Wow. Sorry, but after a 102 win season I can’t believe someone even said that. They’re probably gonna be just as strong next year(unless howard is out). They will probably be better because a full season of hunter pence will help a lot.

  40. coolstorybro222 4 years ago

    Wow. what a sore loser. You buy the best rotation in baseball and they can’t muster pst the first round. The phillies don’t deserve any of the players they ever traded for. 

  41. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Please stop talking.

  42. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    Haha Let me taste those salty tears!! mmmmmm YUMMY!! salty tears of philly fans!!

  43. Infield Fly 4 years ago

    Yo no.

  44. Vato como fan de los gigantes me pregunto… que haces en este blog? disfruta el hecho que kemp sera mvp y kershaw cy young. 

  45. Slopeboy 4 years ago

    Soy de la opinion que Fitz tiene razon.

  46. $5474103 4 years ago

    No speak-o spanish-o. Speak-o english-o?

  47. $5474103 4 years ago

    No speak-o spanish-o. Speak-o english-o?

  48. JST1331 4 years ago

    Alright come on, arguments on the internet are childish and give a bad reputation for Phillies fans.

  49. Infield Fly 4 years ago

    In that case this winter is gonna be a full-out nuclear war! 😀

  50. EdinsonPickle 4 years ago

    I say we organize an MLBTR baseball game in Iowa to settle these disputes! I get to be first captain, pitch, and bat lead off; I did think of this grand idea after all.

  51. EdinsonPickle 4 years ago

    I say we organize an MLBTR baseball game in Iowa to settle these disputes! I get to be first captain, pitch, and bat lead off; I did think of this grand idea after all.

  52. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    The 1st round of the playoffs is a coin flip. The Phillies are built to win in the regular season and a 7 game series where better pitching = better chances. 5 game series: you can get by with 2 pitchers.

  53. hscphillyboy 4 years ago

    Traded or Buy ?………Which is it ……BRO ?

  54. greggofboken 4 years ago

    I agree.  I don’t think any of the LCS rounds before 1984 really meant anything.  The Yankees, A’s, Reds and the 1980 Phillies of that era were really just lucky.

  55. Guest 4 years ago

     good. i dont ever want to hear any of you reference the braves of the ’90’s and say “yea but they should’ve won more than one world series”.  now you know how incredibly difficult it is to even get there. glad we can all be in agreement.

  56. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    sounds like excuses now from the guy saying something along the lines of the cardinals can’t prove anything until they get past Roy halladay, cliff lee, roy oswalt, and cole hamels lol.  

  57. Halladay twice, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels & Roy Oswalt and you are making excuses………. C’Mon man!!!!!!!!!! Listening to Philly fans whine is hilarious. Really guys,,,, get a grip!

  58. stl_cards16 4 years ago

    That’s foolish talk.  Both teams used 4 different starters in the series.  The Phillies were favored in EVERY game of the 5 game series.  They didn’t lose because the first round is a coin flip, the lost because they got out-played.

  59. Gary Cooper 4 years ago

    Not when you have “Four Aces”.  The first round is a coin flip for any team not built deep with pitching.  The Phillies were a team built to reel off 3-4 wins in a row with that staff.  

  60. hscphillyboy 4 years ago

    I’m typing…….2 Aces, 1 king & a Queen………..

  61. hscphillyboy 4 years ago

    I’m typing…….2 Aces, 1 king & a Queen………..

  62. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    LOL you would want that!  BWAHAHAHAHA Philly fans are such sore losers!!

  63. 55saveslives 4 years ago

    LOL you would want that!  BWAHAHAHAHA Philly fans are such sore losers!!

  64. Scott Layne 4 years ago

    I don’t see the Phillies falling off dramatically, but I don’t see them putting up 90 wins next year. I don’t believe they are a clutch team that can handle pressure on the field as well as it looks like they can on paper. And an argument can be made that EVERY team in the NL East should be better next season. Marlins… health, new ballpark, free-agent pickups, and Ozzie. Braves… a real good team based on youth, should have a bounce back year. Nationals… well I just believe that they will at least improve, more experience and a front office willing to spend. Mets… simple health and an improved pitching staff should make an improvement.

    Bascially… the Phillies streak of consecutive divisional titles is probably over.

  65. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    The pitching should still be strong but the offense definitely needs a tune up. 

  66. YanksFanSince78 4 years ago

    The pitching should still be strong but the offense definitely needs a tune up. 

  67. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Most teams that win are very lucky. The good teams are the ones that put themselves in a position to be lucky.

  68. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Most teams that win are very lucky. The good teams are the ones that put themselves in a position to be lucky.

  69. VadaPinson 4 years ago

    Exactly….like in 1973…..the Mets were the luckiest team in the history of the world at 82-79 to beat the BRM who were 99-63.

    Pitching like the Mets had…..made them more dangerous than any team in baseball in a short series when you had Seaver, Koosman and Matlack who could all go 9 almost evert time.   The Reds that series were like the Phillies this series…..Offense tanked.
    Although I would only say Carp and maybe Garcia could be compared to any of those 2.  No one compares to Seaver.

  70. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    … like most teams trying to win now.

    None of their prospects have really panned out for other teams… the Halladay and Pence trades should be the only ones that haunt them.

  71. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    … like most teams trying to win now.

    None of their prospects have really panned out for other teams… the Halladay and Pence trades should be the only ones that haunt them.

  72. Infield Fly 4 years ago

    Pero muchacho qué te pasa? Siempre pensé que tú eras una persona con mucho más clase, y lo de Fitz fue odioso. :(

  73. Infield Fly 4 years ago

    Pero muchacho qué te pasa? Siempre pensé que tú eras una persona con mucho más clase, y lo de Fitz fue odioso. :(

  74. bayareabeast 4 years ago

    correct my friend. i was laughing at the fact they choked on a fat one this year.

  75. jwsox 4 years ago

    They didnt choke on a fat one. Choking is what the braves and bosox did…the phillies were built to win the regular season which they did. Ask any baseball person/ read anything about the playoffs. Just get in, is what everyone says. If youre team is in they have a chance because teams have enough rest between few starts they can pitch their best pitchers as much as possible. The phillies didnt choke they lost to a hot clutch team. All those games were close and to lose it all by 1 run is not choking..

  76. Slopeboy 4 years ago

    Este tipo es un bruto total. Cierto que lo que Fitz dijo ayer no hay como perdonar porque cojio la opportundad para atacar la raza, en vez de responderle solamente a el. Y por eso fue que viene a la defensa .Hoy este burro aparce haciendo lo miso. En vez de comportarse como un adulto, viene escribiendo mierda y dandole apoyo a los quien buscan la escusa para atacarnos.

  77. bayareabeast 4 years ago

    are you aware of the rotation you guys had? maybe as a giants fan i make too much of pitching but you guys had one of the all time great staffs, pitching wins in the postseason..then ur lineup was still very impressive as well. chokechokechoke

  78. Spaldingballs 4 years ago

    His handle is “jwsox” so while “his guys” did have a great pitching staff, they didn’t make the playoffs. Also, in the playoffs, even the best teams probably have a 55% chance of winning any given series. Therefore, it’s not a “choke” to lose in 5 games to a competent team.

  79. James Czerwinski 4 years ago

    The Phillies DO NOT HAVE AN ALL TIME GREAT STAFF!!!!  they didn’t win….plain and simple…there hitters choked!!!  there BP sucks and everyone who says well they had the best record in MLB this year…who cares??  Best record means nothing when everyteam plays a different schedule.  The Cardinals were a better team this year…proved it in head2head……The Phillies have no heart…no bench and overrated position players…..Next year they will have a new SS, 3B, LF and SP/CLOSER….maybe they will sign some players with heart.

  80. gunsnascar 4 years ago

    That is a fine idea. We may be able to field enough players to make 2 teams and probably have 100+ equipment managers in attendance. Because they cant play sports they just talk like they can.

  81. Rabbitov 4 years ago

    Well said Mr. Woodworth, well said.

  82. Rabbitov 4 years ago

    I think you are in panic mode and not for any good reason.  The Phillies didn’t blow it. The Cardinals earned it.  It happens.  If the Phils didn’t make a single move this offseason but kept the entire team together, even with Howard out, it would still be a top team in baseball next year. 

    Get off the ledge dude. 

  83. Rabbitov 4 years ago

    I don’t buy it.

  84. James Czerwinski 4 years ago

    Vance Worley might get traded in the offseason for a bat……..he’s another JA HAPP……no guarantee he will do anything next year.

  85. gunsnascar 4 years ago

    ok mr equipment manager

  86. Spaldingballs 4 years ago

    Also, why does your playing of high school/ college ball (wow, how special you are) make you know more than others? Please explain in a logical manner.

  87. Spaldingballs 4 years ago

    At what level do you “actually play sports?” And why does it matter?

  88. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    … and they did so what is your point? I didn’t say the Phillies were going to win I SAID if the CARDINALS BEAT the PHILLIES they would be THE FAVORITES. I said NATIONAL media WOULD take them SERIOUSLY… when most people didn’t doubt them. You didn’t read my response to you when you said that.

    and as for it being an excuse… it isn’t. The best team rarely wins in the playoffs. It’s the right team at the right time. The 2008 Phillies shouldn’t have beaten the Brewers. They got lucky that CC was out of bullets and Mike Cameron forgot how to catch a flyball.

  89. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    They lost because their offense went cold at the wrong time.

    Watch the tape of Game 5 and see how many fastballs down the middle that they rolled over. Look at the Edwin Jackson game. Hittable pitches they missed.

    That series is a sweep if Cliff Lee had his A Game. He didn’t but that doesn’t change the fact that the first round is a coin flip.

    and it has nothing to do with my team losing… Ask Billy Beane… ask any analyst… the first round is the best shot a team has at an upset.

  90. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Halladay won
    Cliff Lee choked
    Cole Hamels won
    Roy Oswalt was horrible
    and Halladay pitched his best ball game and the offense disappeared.

    The Cardinals wouldn’t have beaten Cliff Lee twice. One bad game cost the Phillies the series.

  91. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    See: Atlanta Braves.

  92. stl_cards16 4 years ago

    You keep saying you’re not giving excuses, that’s all I see.  You can’t even give credit to the other team.  You lost because the Phillies offense went cold and Cliff Lee didn’t have his A game?  So when the Cardinals struggle for runs it’s because of great pitching.  When the Phillies struggle for runs it’s because the Phillies offense went cold.  Sound like a true homer, sorry you can’t enjoy baseball for what it is.

    Make all your excuses you want for game 5.  Carpenter outpitched Doc in a post-season classic.

  93. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    I’m not making excuses. I saw a game that was very winnable for the Phillies in Game 5. Halladay out pitched Carpenter, but Carpenter got the results which is all that matters.

    The Cardinals are experts on finding excuses though since their All Star 1st baseman and Manager seem to do it every time they lose. Like game 2… it was the umpire’s fault Carpenter was pitching bad… in Game 3, it was the shadows’ fault that Cole Hamels didn’t get shelled (even though Pujols had 3 hits that day).

    … but are those facts? or are Pujols and Tony just making homer excuses?

    Tell me this though? When was the last time the best team in baseball won the World Series? The 2009 Yankees. Before that? The 2007 Red Sox. How about before that?

    The playoffs ARE a crapshoot. The team playing the best baseball is ALWAYS the one who wins… not the best team.

    I wish the Cardinals the best of luck. Other than the manager, there’s a lot of great players over there who I’d like to see win a title. I HATE LaRussa. Hate him.

    The Cardinals out managed and out played the Phillies in the 2011 NLDS. I will admit that. I won’t admit they were better.

  94. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Vance Worley puts himself in a LOT of jams. He’s not going to pitch his way out of them forever.

    I like Worley but he’s going to put up Joe Blanton ish numbers (which is fine)… not the great ERA he had this year.

  95. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    No way. Cole Hamels is the best player our farm system has produced in a long, long time. I want him to retire as a Phillie, especially since he’s finally becoming the pitcher he was destined to be.

    The only untouchables for me are 1. Halladay 2. Hamels 3. Lee 4. Pence 5. Bastardo (I changed my stance since the last time I made my untouchable list)

    Utley, I’d trade in a heart beat. Victorino I’d trade in a heart beat. I’d trade Ruiz, he’s the most overrated underrated player in Philadelphia. (As long as they got replacements… not to just tank a season).

    Does anyone know if the LA Angels would still be interested in taking Ryan Howard’s salary off our hands? or are they going to stop doing that now that their GM resigned? :)

  96. Laney Bizzle 4 years ago

    “The Cardinals wouldn’t have beaten Cliff Lee twice. ”

    Ever watch the 2010 World Series?

  97. Phillies_Aces35 4 years ago

    Yeah and considering he would have been matched up against Kyle Loshe… I stick by that theory.

    Cliff Lee pitched pretty well in game 5 of the World Series… He lost because Linceccum was unhittable.

  98. stl_cards16 4 years ago

    They were better for the 5 games.  That’s what baseball is.  If you enjoy people deciding who the best team is instead of it being decided on the field, I suggest you start to watch college football.   The goal is to make the playoffs and then win 11 games.  Whoever does that is the best at what the goal of baseball is.  So you can continue with the cheap little whiny insults now……..

    PS: You can continue to talk about how hittable Carpenter was too, that makes it all that much sweeter.

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