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Remember when the Cardinals traded for Scott Rolen? Or when the Jays gave up Michael Young for Esteban Loaiza? You probably remember the deal that sent Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to the Tigers.
Those three deals are just a few of the decade's most significant moves. Hundreds of trades later, the 2000s are just months from completion. This means it's time to look back at some of the trades that defined, enabled and inhibited teams in the 2000s.
But before we examine the decade's biggest deals in more detail, here's a list of runners up:
Not bad, for a group of runners up (and remember, we'll look at the decade's biggest deals in detail). Which trades on this list do you consider most important?
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"The Astros acquired Carlos Beltran from the Astros in a 2004 three-team deal."
who did the Astros get from the Astros in return for trading Beltran to the Astros? Who was the 3rd team in the deal with the Astros and the Astros?
Posted by: giantsfan14 | October 21, 2009 at 08:19 PM
Well, if I remember right, the third team was the Astros. They sent Carlos Beltran to the Astros who in turn sent him to the ASTROS. REMEMBER!!?!?!?!
Posted by: sharx | October 21, 2009 at 08:21 PM
I'm anxious to see the finalists if the Sabathia deal didn't make the list.
Posted by: PWHjort | October 21, 2009 at 08:22 PM
lol, it was the a's wasnt it?
Posted by: PL | October 21, 2009 at 08:22 PM
but the "most important" trades are the ones where a player played a key part on a championship team. You can justify any trade with a ring (see: Boston & Hanley Ramirez).
Posted by: PL | October 21, 2009 at 08:24 PM
Possibly the biggest deal of the decade was left off this list. Back in 2005 when the Boston Red Sox sent SS Hanley Ramirez, P Anibal Sanchez, and P Jesus Delgado to the Florida Marlins for SP Josh Beckett, 3B Mike Lowell, and RP Guillermo Mota.
Posted by: CCdonteatme | October 21, 2009 at 08:25 PM
what about Andy LaRoche to the Pirates?
Posted by: willers | October 21, 2009 at 08:32 PM
This is a list of runners up, which is why Hanley-Beckett isn't on it. That will be analyzed later.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | October 21, 2009 at 08:33 PM
This is a list of runners up, which is why Hanley-Beckett isn't on it. That will be analyzed later.
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | October 21, 2009 at 08:33 PM
Did you guys really leave Alex Rodriguez for Alfonso Soriano and a player to be named OFF this list?
Posted by: SBS0311 | October 21, 2009 at 08:34 PM
•The Astros acquired Carlos Beltran from the Astros in a 2004 three-team deal"
Um???
Posted by: lakersdodgersyankees4life | October 21, 2009 at 08:35 PM
Wasn't the Reds deal to get Griffey in early 2000.
Posted by: schellis | October 21, 2009 at 08:35 PM
The Astros got Beltran in a three team trade, the Royals technically traded him to the A's, who then traded him to the Astros. And all we got in return was John Buck, Mark Teahen, and Mike Wood....freaking steal of a trade, all of our main outfielder trades sucked, Damon, Dye, and Beltran.
Posted by: Koby | October 21, 2009 at 08:37 PM
Joe Nathan anybody?
Posted by: HouseThatKirbyBuilt | October 21, 2009 at 08:42 PM
What about Jim Thome to White Sox for Gio Gonzalez and Aaron Rowand. Or Freddy Garcia for Gavin Floyd and John Danks. Yhe Dodgers trading for Manny and the Red Sox getting Jason Bay. Matt Garza for Delmon Young and Bredan Harris. Carlos Delgado to the Mets. Mark Teixara to the Braves for a monster group of prospects. Mark Texira to the Angels. Scott Kazmir to the Angels. Dan Haren to the Diamondbacks. Erik Bedard to Mariners for Adam Jones, George Sherrill, Chris Tilman, and others. Carlos Quentin to White Sox for Chris Carter.
Posted by: metfan57 | October 21, 2009 at 08:43 PM
While those trades all fit in well, I think the decision as to whether Cliff Lee belongs on this list or the later list, of the real trades of the decade, ought to have been held off until after the postseason is over. If Lee helps the Phillies to a World Series, it almost certainly should be moved up to the list of the best.
And I think, from its absence, the Phils acquiring Brad Lidge has to be on the big list.
Posted by: dilbert719.livejournal.com | October 21, 2009 at 08:45 PM
I'd have to put the Texieria to the Braves trade for the farm on that list. The Braves got completely burned in this deal. The Rangers have a really good team of young talent the Braves gave them.
Posted by: 123456 | October 21, 2009 at 08:46 PM
Steve Finley for Edgardo Alfatso!
Posted by: nostocksjustbonds | October 21, 2009 at 08:47 PM
no phil nevin for jerry hairston? neifi perez for chris robinson?
Posted by: 100backeduptrucks | October 21, 2009 at 09:03 PM
I guess I'll be the anal-retentive smeghead who starts the whole "2000-2009" decade vs. the "2001-2010" decade. ;)
Then again, a decade is a grouping of any 10 years, so I guess we're all right--the decade of the 2000s probably is 2000-2009, even if the century and millenium began in 2001.
But, then again, most people start counting at 1, which is why many say that the Yankees haven't won a World series this decade(and they're right).
Can open, worms are getting out. :D
And, oh yes, the Bedard trade to the Orioles should definitely have been in the post.
Posted by: StarryEyed | October 21, 2009 at 09:05 PM
"I guess I'll be the anal-retentive smeghead who starts the whole "2000-2009" decade vs. the "2001-2010" decade."
That sentence should end with the word "debate"(or "argument") to make sense.
Sorry(in Gilly voice).
Posted by: StarryEyed | October 21, 2009 at 09:06 PM
How about Alex Rodriguez for Alfonso Soriano?
Posted by: slasherized | October 21, 2009 at 09:07 PM
IT'S A LIST OF RUNNERS UP.
Posted by: PWHjort | October 21, 2009 at 09:15 PM
"Joe Nathan anybody?"
Agreed, steal of the decade even if Liriano is turning out to be a one-hit wonder.
But based on that list, only 3 of those trades directly lead to a team winning the series... strangely 2 of them were Curt Schilling trades. I can't remember who the Dbacks sacrificed for Schill and I don't feel like doing the research... so if they gave up less than the Red Sox (best piece turned out to be Brandon Lyon) then it's the best on the list, otherwise it's the Sox/Schill trade.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 21, 2009 at 09:22 PM
The Rangers made 3 of the worst trades (Soriano for Brad Wilkerson), (Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez for Adam Eaton) and (John Danks for Brandon McCarthey) and 2 of the best (Tex for Elvis Andrus, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison and Beau Jones) and (Carlos Lee and Nelson Cruz for Kevin Mench and Lance Nix)
Posted by: master sensei | October 21, 2009 at 09:23 PM
I wonder if the Jim Edmonds deal will make the list. Edmonds was traded to the Cardinals for Kent Bottenfield and Adam Kennedy. This took place before the '00 season, so I'm not sure if it happened after the turn of the century, but it was a big deal at the time. Edmonds holds all of the Cardinals NLDS hitting records (there's a piece on stltoday.com) and Kennedy at the time was a highly touted prospect and Bottenfield just came off of an 18 win season...
Posted by: MVPujols | October 21, 2009 at 09:25 PM
Edgar Renteria to the Tigers for Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez anyone? Since Gorkys was the centerpiece for the Braves getting McClouth it was basically Renteria for Jurrjens and McClouth. Not bad getting a young ace and a gold glove centerfielder for an aging SS.
Posted by: ChopChop | October 21, 2009 at 09:27 PM
No Bartolo Colon to the Expos in 2002?
Posted by: Chorizo5 | October 21, 2009 at 09:36 PM
Nevermind, these are the runners up - got it!
In that case... take Sabathia off thislist IMMEDIATELY.
Written by a Cubs fan, no doubt.
Posted by: Chorizo5 | October 21, 2009 at 09:40 PM
Ben,
How is the 2004 A's-Cardinals trade not on this list? Mark Mulder for Kiko Calero, Dan Haren, and Daric Barton. Mulder had an impact in the Cards 2005 NLCS run but then had a large negative impact on the team's rotation in 2006 and 2007. And Dan Haren was instrumental in the 2006 A's ALCS run and has been one of the best pitchers in the league the last 3-4 years.
Posted by: JBCardsFan | October 21, 2009 at 09:45 PM
jason schmidt to the giants for a bunch of players i dont think are in the game anymore
Posted by: friscofan101 | October 21, 2009 at 09:48 PM
Bartolo Colon to the Montreal Expos for Cliff Lee, Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore and Lee Stevens. Who were the master scouts for the Indians in that trade???
Posted by: formerdraftpick | October 21, 2009 at 09:49 PM
Milton Bradley for Andre Ethier?
Posted by: Bleacher_bum_SF | October 21, 2009 at 09:50 PM
manny ramirez anybody?
Posted by: harrison | October 21, 2009 at 09:54 PM
JBCardsFan: like I say in the post, it's a list of runners-up...
Posted by: Ben Nicholson-Smith | October 21, 2009 at 09:59 PM
You'd think that some of us would actually read the whole post and get that this is a list of runnerups.
Sounds like we may have hinted to some of the winners too.
Over a decade later I still cant believe Bottenfield gets Edmonds...
Posted by: hombrej | October 21, 2009 at 10:11 PM
I think you missed a big one in 2003 where J.D. Drew was traded from St. Louis to Atlanta for a package that included Jason Marquis and some guy named Adam Wainwright.
Posted by: fuzbal | October 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Ben,
now you know for future reference you can't do two seperate lists because half the posts will be people complaining about "their trade" not being listed and the other half will be people yelling at them for not reading.
But based on that list, only 3 of those trades directly lead to a team winning the series... strangely 2 of them were Curt Schilling trades. I can't remember who the Dbacks sacrificed for Schill and I don't feel like doing the research... so if they gave up less than the Red Sox (best piece turned out to be Brandon Lyon) then it's the best on the list, otherwise it's the Sox/Schill trade.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 21, 2009 at 09:22 PM
if the phils can lock this game down you could have a 50/50 shot of the Lee trade being added to that list of yours.
Oh and it was Omar daal, Travis Lee and I believe Vicente padilla??? going for memory there.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | October 21, 2009 at 10:16 PM
Biggest deal was Schilling to the D'Backs...they won a WS for f-sake! Then the BoSox got him and he won another one!
Cliff Lee to the Phillies could be equal to that trade if they win another WS with him this year as well!
Posted by: dj tizzo | October 21, 2009 at 10:17 PM
If the Cubs are somehow able to trade Bradley for anything more than a box of sunflower seeds, I contend it's the coup of the decade.
Posted by: 2HeadedBoy | October 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM
HAVE GOT to include Jason Schmidt & John Van Der Wal for Armando Rios & Ryan Vogelsong. That trade alone allowed Sabean to coast into his last extension previous to this one.
Posted by: M | October 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM
It also got the Giants to the World Series a year later and playoffs after that.
Posted by: M | October 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM
There are a lot of major omissions to this list.
I don't think anyone has mentioned Bonser-Liriano-Nathan for Pierzynski.
Posted by: drzimo | October 21, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Gotta admit, I was surprised to see Schilling to the D-Backs as a 'runner-up'. That is the biggest trade on this runner-up list, so it'll be interesting to see what trades were better.
Posted by: That's What She Said | October 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM
Do people not read?
This is a list of RUNNER-UPS, wait til the next post then cry about your team's trade not being there
Posted by: Deanezag | October 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Add another Ranger horrible trade we traded Carlos Pena for Gerald Laird and Ryan Ludwick in 2002. Would have worked out if they haven't of gave up on Ludwick
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
wow, people cant read, huh?
Posted by: PL | October 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Don't even get me started on the Jermaine Dye trade...the Royals get Neifi "good for nothing" Perez. A one year dud.
Posted by: Royalsfreak708 | October 21, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Add another Ranger horrible trade we traded Carlos Pena for Gerald Laird and Ryan Ludwick in 2002. Would have worked out if they haven't of gave up on Ludwick
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Holy Crap!!! I never really followed MLB farm systems and their prospects until about 3 yrs ago....So let me get this straight...The Rangers had Texiera, A.Gonzalez, Pena, Davis, and Smoak?
Thats insane, I had no idea!
Posted by: dj tizzo | October 21, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I think we're missing a pretty big one here:
Mike Lowell and Josh Beckett to the Red Sox in exchange for Hanley Ramirez & other prospects in November 2005
Posted by: jb42 | October 21, 2009 at 11:50 PM
"if the phils can lock this game down you could have a 50/50 shot of the Lee trade being added to that list of yours."
If I was a gambling man, my money wouldn't be on the Phils. But regardless, as of today I don't see the Lee trade as the best of the decade mostly because the Indians return hasn't had the time to be evaluated. Think of the last time Lee was traded. At the time it was a steal for the Expos to trade 3 prospects for Colon, years later Lee, Phillips, and Sizemore all turned out to be top of the line players. So for the Lee to Philly trade to be considered best of the decade, I'll have to wait to see what the Phils gave up.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 22, 2009 at 12:23 AM
"Mike Lowell and Josh Beckett to the Red Sox in exchange for Hanley Ramirez & other prospects in November 2005"
If the criteria is "best trade that benefited both sides" then sure it was a great trade where both teams benefited. Otherwise, not the greatest trade of the decade.
Posted by: start_wearing_purple | October 22, 2009 at 12:24 AM
How about that Richie Sexson to the D-Backs deal for 6 players! HAHAHA!
Posted by: keehno | October 22, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Really, MLBTR? The Manny trade last season couldn't even make your list? That was HUGE!
Posted by: Harrison Leonard | October 22, 2009 at 12:40 AM
the Giles trade sucked so bad imagine if we still had Bay and Oliver and even Nady even though he wasn't part of that
Posted by: Tha_SD-Brain | October 22, 2009 at 12:43 AM
No question in my mind. 2002: Bartolo Colon and Tim Drew for Lee Stevens, Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore, and Brandon Phillips. Maybe the Nationals would be a contender if not for that deal. Maybe the Phils wouldn't be in the WS this year.
Posted by: insomniac | October 22, 2009 at 01:01 AM
OMG people. READ. It's a list of runners up. The top 10 is coming later!!!
Posted by: goCUBSgo | October 22, 2009 at 02:00 AM
Beane's hudson trade was bad, unfortunately it took other teams later on for cruz/meyer to be solid relievers. charles Thomas was a fluke
At least the mulder deal keeps on giving...
Calero- solid reliever for 2 yrs, but injuries, had a great comeback in 09 for marlins
Barton-24 yrs old, might be a solid hitter
Haren- very good pitcher for 3 seasons
Then turned haren into- anderson/cargon/carter/cunningham/smith/eveland
smith/street/cargon into 4 months of holliday + wallace mortensen/peterson
finally tally:
for mulder and street
3 seasons of haren
4 months of holliday
a couple seasons of calero
carter/barton/cunningham/wallace/peterson/mortensen
anderson/eveland
Posted by: arly2380 | October 22, 2009 at 03:48 AM
It took carlos pena his 6th team to break out w/ the Rays eventually
bonderman looke like a future ace, but is now expensive and injury prone.
Lilly has turned into solid career
Another trade:
July 5, 2002: Traded as part of a 3-team trade by the New York Yankees with Jason Arnold (minors) and John-Ford Griffin to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent a player to be named later, Franklyn German and Carlos Pena to the Detroit Tigers. The Detroit Tigers sent Jeff Weaver to the New York Yankees. The Detroit Tigers sent cash to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent Jeremy Bonderman (August 22, 2002) to the Detroit Tigers to complete the trade.
November 18, 2003: Traded by the Oakland Athletics to the Toronto Blue Jays for Bobby Kielty.
Posted by: arly2380 | October 22, 2009 at 03:55 AM
This is so right:
"Ben,
now you know for future reference you can't do two seperate lists because half the posts will be people complaining about "their trade" not being listed and the other half will be people yelling at them for not reading."
Congrats on winning the NL, btw, Philswhatevertheheckyournameis
Posted by: PWHjort | October 22, 2009 at 04:36 AM
PwHjort,
thanks! I know it must pain you (as I believe you are a fellow NL east fan (braves or mets??).
startwearingpurple,
Oh i don't know, people never thought the phils could beat the Rays last year. Also if i remember correctly both Longoria AND Upton were scorching hot throughout the ALDS and ALCS last year and they were tamed. WHo knows. We'll see but if it is the Yanks, here's hoping its a great series. I have a hard time believing it won't be.
Posted by: philsWSchamps | October 22, 2009 at 06:39 AM
Maybe AJ for nathan, liriano, and boof bonser... Lol
How did you forget that?
Posted by: liondragon | October 22, 2009 at 07:27 AM
At the time, I remember St. Louis adding Larry Walker made their line-up straight nasty. Can't believe it didn't turn into a ring.
Posted by: Rootdown | October 22, 2009 at 07:42 AM
Gotta be A-Gonz and Young for Adam Freakin Eaton. TERRRRRIBLE
Posted by: Casanova Wong | October 22, 2009 at 08:02 AM
I'm with you, StarryEyed. Unless "the decade" is any 10-year period, we should be holding these lists back until next year.
Posted by: theroundsquare | October 22, 2009 at 08:27 AM
Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee and Brandon Phillips for Bartolo Colon may be the biggest trade and it does not even make the list!?!?!? Lame. I mean two future CY Young winners were traded for each other AND Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips were part of the deal. How does it get bigger??
Posted by: ntkingsley | October 22, 2009 at 08:47 AM
I am a little suprised that the trade of AJ Pierzynski from the Twins to the Giants for Joe Nathan, Boof Bonser, and Francisco Liriano didn't make the list. As a Twins fan, I want to thank the Giants.
Posted by: Pohlad Sucks | October 22, 2009 at 09:24 AM
people must not read lol
Posted by: humannature | October 22, 2009 at 09:28 AM
The comments on this post by the clearly illiterate among us make this a sad day for the international web apparatus.
Posted by: Monroe Says | October 22, 2009 at 09:47 AM
People, it's abundantly obvious that they're going to do detailed posts on the very biggest trades, they said it in this post.
Here are the main ones that will have posts on them, from what I've surmised:
-Pierzynski for Nathan, Liriano and Bonser
-Colon for Sizemore, Lee, Phillips and Stevens
-Mulder for Haren, Calero and Barton
-Beckett, Mota and Lowell for Ramirez, Sanchez, Garcia and Delgado
-Alex Rodriguez for Alfonso Soriano and Joaquin Arias
-Haren and Robertson for Anderson, Gonzalez, Eveland, Smith, Carter and Cunningham
-Bedard for Jones, Sherrill, Tillman, Mickolio and Butler
-Teixeira for Salty, Andrus, Harrison, Feliz and Jones
-Sexson and Nance for Overbay, Capuano, De La Rosa, Spivey, Moeller and Counsell
-Drew and Marrero for Marquis, Wainwright, and King
-Alomar, Backsik and Peoples for Escobar, Lawton, Riggan, Traber and Snyder
-Hampton and Pierre for Wilson, Johnson, Darensbourg and Ozuna
-Justice for Day, Westbrook and Ledee
And of course:
Griffey Jr. for Cameron, Tomko, Perez and Meyer
Those were the most obvious omissions that I saw.
Posted by: scribbletone | October 22, 2009 at 10:06 AM
Seriously....reading these comments and the insane amount of people who didn't read every word of the post just makes me sad.
Posted by: DW7 | October 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM
The only noteworthy player who headed back to Philadelphia in the Schilling-to-DBacks trade was Vicente Padilla. Travis Lee and Omar Daal are two names I don't think anyone will remember. Nelson Figueroa fits in that category also.
Meanwhile, Schilling waives his right to demand a trade the following season (vote of confidence there). Good thing, because he and Randy Johnson would lead the Diamondbacks to a World Series title. Schilling would win 45 games between 2001 and 2002 and finished second in Cy Young votes to Randy Johnson in both years.
That 2000 transaction is by far the best deal on this list of runners-up and blows other premature/mediocre deals like Lee-to-Phillies out of the water.
Posted by: Ruck859 | October 22, 2009 at 10:36 AM
philsWSchamps,
Yeah, I'm a Braves fan. But no, it doesn't pain me. I'm happy for ya.
Posted by: PWHjort | October 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Scott Kazmir + Jose Diaz
for
Victor Zambrano + Bartolome Fortunato
Enough Said, worked out pretty well for TB (Kazmir pitched to the tune of a 3.61 ERA over 723 IP for the Rays in the AL East)and they then added prospects by dealing him.
Meanwhole Zambrano over his stellar Mets Career -
187 IP
4.46 ERA, 1.508 WHIP
8 wins - 14 loses
The two throw ins on each end (Fortunato and Diaz have not amounted to anything)
Regardless, I would say for a trade that still lingers in the eyes of Mets fans, it was a real good one for the Rays.
Posted by: MrMet | October 22, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I'm surprised "The Padres acquired Adrian Gonzalez and Chris Young from the Rangers (for Adam Eaton and Akinori Otsuka)in 2005." isn't in the top 10.
Is it because it was so one-sided??
Posted by: A | October 22, 2009 at 01:09 PM
Hmm, the Cabrera/Willis for Miller/Maybin + 4 others didn't make the list for top 10? That was one of the biggest trades in the 07 offseason
Posted by: Fishfan4 | October 22, 2009 at 03:06 PM
The Adam Eaton deal was horrible he only made 12 starts for the Rangers and Otsuka threw out his elbow at the end of 2007 and hasn't been heard from since.
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 23, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Add another Ranger horrible trade we traded Carlos Pena for Gerald Laird and Ryan Ludwick in 2002. Would have worked out if they haven't of gave up on Ludwick
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 21, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Holy Crap!!! I never really followed MLB farm systems and their prospects until about 3 yrs ago....So let me get this straight...The Rangers had Texiera, A.Gonzalez, Pena, Davis, and Smoak?
Thats insane, I had no idea!
Add Travis Hafner to that bunch too we traded him to the Indians for Ryan Drese
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 23, 2009 at 10:19 AM
If you ever need a good firstbaseman, the rangers is where they are born and breed.
Posted by: Rangerfan | October 23, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Delmon Young and Brendan Harris for Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett has to be on this list of runners up.
Posted by: therayway | October 30, 2009 at 01:47 PM