Red Sox Seek Rotation Depth

The Red Sox have five proven starters and a handful of viable alternatives, but that’s not stopping GM Theo Epstein from looking for more possibilities for the rotation, according to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe. The Red Sox are looking for starting pitching depth and would love to add a veteran who’s open to pitching at Triple-A until he’s needed.

“We’ve learned that we can never have enough starting pitching, but we like the depth provided by [Tim] Wakefield, [Alfredo] Aceves, and [Felix] Doubront," Epstein said.

Wakefield, Aceves and Doubront are the team’s primary alternatives to the starting five of Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz, John Lackey, Josh Beckett and Daisuke Matsuzaka. It also appears that the Red Sox will start Andrew Miller at Triple-A and stretch him out as a starter in the minors.

Though some starting pitching is available, none of it appears to be a logical fit for the Red Sox. The $16MM remaining on Joe Blanton’s contract makes him an unattractive option; it seems doubtful that the Red Sox would meet the Twins' asking price for Kevin Slowey only to stash him in the minors and the Red Sox don’t appear to have much interest in Jeremy Bonderman.

I listed a number of potentially available starters earlier in the week.


51 Responses to Red Sox Seek Rotation Depth Leave a Reply

  1. Tirameenlasbolas 4 years ago

    Theo should call Cash about Millwood.

    • BoSoxFan1950 4 years ago

      Great idea, but, alas, too late the mop. Yankees signed him.

  2. 0bsessions 4 years ago

    Better swoop in and snag Millwood while that hot commodity is still on the market.

    Get it done, Theo!

  3. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    i feel like he is just mocking the yankees now

  4. BravesRed 4 years ago

    Let the (insert Braves pitcher here) to the Red Sox saga begin.

    • Tko11 4 years ago

      No…just no. There was never any Braves-Red Sox saga, and besides Hanson, the braves dont even have any good starters the red sox would be interested in.

      • Well that’s ignorant of you to say, but no one really wants to listen to us argue about all the Braves pitching (because we’ve all heard it millions of times before).

        • Tko11 4 years ago

          Tell me a veteran pitcher on the braves who would be willing to pitch in AAA? I dont see how thats ignorant…

          • None of them, but that’s not what you said before. You said simply “the Braves don’t have any good starters the Red Sox would be interested in”. Can’t see a comment like that and not point out how incorrect it is.

          • Tko11 4 years ago

            I guess I could have restated what the summary on the top of the page said…that they were looking for a veteran who is willing to pitch in AAA. Thats what the sox are looking for and thats what I meant because thats what this post is about. Ill try to be more clear next time…

      • fitz 4 years ago

        Dumbest comment ever.

        • MaineSox 4 years ago

          Certainly not going to defend the comment but if that was the dumbest comment you’ve ever seen then you don’t come around here often enough…

        • Tko11 4 years ago

          Care to explain? Lets break it down…which Pitcher fits the bill for what the Red Sox are looking for? None. More like BravesRed’s comment didnt make sense because there never was a Red Sox saga pursuing Braves pitchers…

          • fitz 4 years ago

            You’re right about their never being any saga between the Sox/Braves to begin with but saying the Braves don’t have any good started outside of Hanson is flat out dumb.

          • Tko11 4 years ago

            I meant any good pitchers the Red Sox would be interested in for pitching depth…but BravesRed came off as really cocky to me as if every team was calling up the Braves and asking about all their pitchers which is why I decided to comment.

  5. Potrzeba 4 years ago

    Kevin slowey would be a nice guy to have.

  6. slowly and perkins for bard

  7. erm016 4 years ago

    Take Kenshit Kawakami (sp) from the Braves. lol

  8. ledhed1234 4 years ago

    Yanks already swooped in and claimed that hot body Millwood

  9. ledhed1234 4 years ago

    CORRECTION: “cold” body

  10. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    Tell Pedro to start getting back in to game shape!!

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      He’d be a nice swingman to have. I wish we would sign him. Even though he throws 86-91 he still knows how to pitch.

      • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

        i would give him a roster spot just to bring him in to hit annoying players

        2 outs, bases empty, 5 run lead? let’s go pedro! sucks to be you, julio lugo

  11. rico7961 4 years ago

    Jed Lowrie for Kevin Slowey would be a nice fair/even trade.

    • randomkeys 4 years ago

      Not really… A versatile and useful member of the current active roster in exchange for another alternate starting pitcher?

      Slowey is fine, but so is Doubront. So is Aceves.

      And who would step up to cover the entire infield, switch-hit with moderate pop and already fit into the team’s plans — the way that Lowrie does?

      • East Coast Bias 4 years ago

        Problem is, most people only look at “fair” trades from one team’s perspective. Especially on this site, it seems.

  12. TapDancingTeddy 4 years ago

    I still can’t believe the Yanks let Aceves go. That’s one weird move when they’re picking up every shot fighter who ever pitched in the majors.

    • East Coast Bias 4 years ago

      They didn’t trust his back. Remains to be seen if Cash made a mistake, or knew something the rest of us don’t.

  13. Steven Isaac 4 years ago

    here come the Felix trades again….

  14. NYBravosFan10 4 years ago

    I know the Red Sox and the Braves have “always” had a “rivalry” but do your former city-mates a favor and take Kenshin Kawakami and/or Rodrigo Lopez. We wouldn’t even need any players in return!!! How about a Dropkick Murphy’s CD and a packet of Fenway Franks for both of them?

    • MaineSox 4 years ago

      I think I’ve got an old Dropkick CD around here somewhere with a few scratches, will that work?

  15. DUMP Wakefield to make room. Wake is the weak link and could be the back breaker on getting to the end game goal. He is done. Dump him.

    • dc21892 4 years ago

      Oh, okay. They want to ADD to the depth they already have.

  16. dc21892 4 years ago

    I hear ya. Unless we have another injury infested season, I think what we have is good.

  17. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    Did you just guarantee that his back won’t be an issue all season? Because if so, that’s very ballsy of you and I commend that, but if not, then it remains to be seen and is in no way “obvious,” pretty or otherwise.

  18. randomkeys 4 years ago

    I don’t even think I was commenting from a Red Sox fan’s point of view. Even from a generic baseball analyst’s point of view — Lowrie is far more valuable to the Red Sox than Slowey would be.

    I might leave room for discussion of Slowey-for-Nava (MAYBE), but even that seems a stretch.

  19. John R. Shaw 4 years ago

    How about Slowey for Matsuzaka? I want Matsuzaka out of Boston for almost anybody.

  20. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    But they didn’t sign him for the next ten years… I was just talking about this upcoming season. And no offense, but I don’t think having a healthy Spring Training means anything, at all, ever. Let’s wait till the season starts, if he stays healthy, I’m wrong. If not, you eat your words. Deal?

  21. East Coast Bias 4 years ago

    A few things. Cashman didn’t think he would be healthy this year, or at least not long enough that would warrant a check. Second, Ace is an unproven starter still, so moving him into the rotation would be risky, regardless of necessity. Third, the bullpen was never the issue, so to take a chance on him as a bullpen arm after missing a considerable portion last year was just not worth it for the Yanks. The plan then became to get as many starters, not bullpen starter hybrids, signed, a la Garcia, Millwood, et al.

    Keep in mind, the Sox didn’t sign him for ten years either, just one. Gotta keep things in perspective.

    So to say that it is “obvious” Cashman was wrong, is just plain irresponsible. Season hasn’t even been played yet. Let’s see how he holds up during the season, then you can throw out your “obvious” facts. Until then, as I said earlier, it remains to be seen…

  22. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    i think you have the right view of things here in terms of describing what the actual decision was based on

    having said that, it’s still a very curious choice. what is the opportunity cost of giving aceves a contract? he has an option, so if he didn’t pitch well he could be stashed. no harm done. if he got injured, they’re out a mil and a spot on the 40 man. small potatoes really for a worst-case scenario

    if he doesn’t get injured and does perform like he has, they have a potentially very nice fix for the rotation depth issues

    seems like a classic lowish risk highish reward scenario and i still can’t figure out why they didn’t give it a shot. assuming he makes the club, i don’t see how a deal like millwood’s is any less risky

  23. randomkeys 4 years ago

    Cameron is extremely difficult to move because of his contract. In addition, he offers a strong R/L platoon opportunity with J.D. Drew (which makes him actually MORE valuable as a player, in my opinion, than most of the younger outfielders they have).

    One comment below this one suggests Matsuzaka for Slowey. That seems a little silly. Matsuzaka is frustrating because he arrived with tremendous hype and is paid a ton of a money — and therefore fans assume he has to be amazing. It’s not quite reality.

    For me, the bottom line of this imaginary trade is flawed — simply because the Red Sox don’t really need Slowey badly enough to actually sacrifice another part of their active team to get it. They could probably be similarly effective in pushing some of their minor league talent if they found an ultimate (and desperate) need for an 8th starter.

  24. MaineSox 4 years ago

    Nava is a good story but his defense is poor and he doesn’t hit enough to make up for it. If they traded him straight up for Slowey I’d be fine with that. It would basically be trading the guy who is 7th or 8th on their OF depth chart for a guy who would be 7th or 8th on their SP depth chart.

  25. twins33 4 years ago

    If I were a Red Sox fan, I would too. Being a Twins fan though, I’ve always hated the guy (overrated) and the Sox overpaid that posting fee by a lot. I call him Dice-BB. He’s much more of a guy who gets in to jams and is insanely lucky how he gets out of most of them.

  26. dickylarue 4 years ago

    There were a lot of rumors in NY that Aceves wasn’t totally motivated in getting off the DL last year. If the Yankees thought there was any hint of an attitude issue with him I can see why they would pass. Teams passed on Lastings Milledge for similar reasons who could have used a young OF who can hit lefties.

    From what I’ve been able to get from Cashman is they didn’t think Aceves would hold up over the course of the season. I don’t know if they were internally questioning his toughness or if they had enough medical info to believe he wasn’t worth the risk. Either way, he would have been competing for the 12th man on the pitching staff in NY w/Mitre who is now gone. I don’t think they ever saw him as a legit rotation candidate. If they did, they would have taken the flier on him.

    As for Aceves looking good in Boston’s camp, maybe having the Yankees turn their back on you will motivate him to his true potential. It wouldn’t be the first time a guy needed to leave a team to excel.

  27. MaineSox 4 years ago

    If only he could pitch like the bases were always loaded, he would be phenomenal!

  28. John R. Shaw 4 years ago

    I’m a bit of a Twins fan myself, since my maternal grandmother grew up in Winona. But only when they’re playing someone other than the Red Sox. The BoSox will always be number one for me.

    I call him MatsuWALKa or DaiSUCKY myself.

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